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Old 01-10-2014, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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The land was never theirs either.
Yes it was.

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Different tribes fought & conquered each other
They didn't usually fight over land ownership.
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Old 01-10-2014, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It's almost like a hostile business takeover isn't it ?

And the EPA notified the tribes but not the cities and counties involved. They found out via the media.
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Old 01-10-2014, 01:49 PM
 
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Yes it was.



They didn't usually fight over land ownership.
I didn't say that was the #1 issue they fought over, but I am sure a lot of it was invasion of territory which happens with every group of people throughout history.
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Old 01-10-2014, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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If he wants the land, he can pay a fair market value for every house and then give them to the indians. Otherwise he can suck on a box of rocks. Hope those people are armed. If they really needed my house bad enough I'd be willing to give it to the feds for normal selling price... no big deal... but just to take it and leave me losing tens of thousands of dollars? Over my dead body.
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Old 01-10-2014, 03:32 PM
 
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If he wants the land, he can pay a fair market value for every house and then give them to the indians. Otherwise he can suck on a box of rocks. Hope those people are armed. If they really needed my house bad enough I'd be willing to give it to the feds for normal selling price... no big deal... but just to take it and leave me losing tens of thousands of dollars? Over my dead body.
What are you talking about?
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Old 01-10-2014, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I didn't say that was the #1 issue they fought over, but I am sure a lot of it was invasion of territory which happens with every group of people throughout history.
The various tribes didn't really claim territory in the manner that you are thinking.

There were sometimes conflicts over hunting or fishing grounds - and those could change depending on where the animals were most abundant at any given time.

A tribe would occupy a particular territory due to geographical and cultural reasons.

For instance, the Paiutes weren't about to cross the Mojave Desert and invade the Tongva on San Pedro Bay because the trip would be too difficult and they had enough to live on in their own neck of the woods.

The Klamath Indians weren't going to go invade Chumash territory because culturally they were quite different - and there was no reason to adopt a different way of life by moving to a completely different location.

And that is just tribes in California.

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Old 01-10-2014, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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What are you talking about?
It appears to Harrier that the poster in question was referring to President Obama.
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Old 01-10-2014, 05:19 PM
 
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They aren't being forced to leave - only the boundary changed.

The city now is part of the reservation.
So, what happens to the home/landowners in that city? I have a friend who lives on an Indian reservation. They have a half million home on the beach, but they don't own the land. They have to pay a monthly lease of several hundred dollars. I have no idea what happens to her house if the reservation decides not to renew the lease at the end of 20 years, but my friend chose the risk to get a cheap(er) beachfront home.
Do these homeowners now lose their homes and land to the reservation?
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Old 01-10-2014, 05:19 PM
 
Location: World
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Which Indian? 7-Eleven store ones or the Casino/Gaming Indians???
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Old 01-10-2014, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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You know this probably goes without saying, but it's not like we kicked these native Americans off their lands with no compensation or something
I'm pretty sure WE didn't kick THESE native americans out of anywhere.

You're probably one of those nuts who think blacks deserve to be paid for slavery too.
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