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how would it possible to look at rulings and determin bias was or was not applied?
By comparing his ruling with those of his counterparts, below, and above him, to see how many were overturned or changed, and then looking at the racial makup of those involved and the reasons provided for the rulings to determine if they are valid.
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how would it possible to look at rulings and determin bias was or was not applied?
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By comparing his ruling with those of his counterparts, below, and above him, to see how many were overturned or changed, and then looking at the racial makup of those involved and the reasons provided for the rulings to determine if they are valid.
I have to agree with pghquest and would add sentences for the same crimes could be compared to see if bias was evident.
Is there any human being lower than these types? Educated but ignorant. Learned but backwards. Employed to be objective, but bigoted, racist, and biased. This man is a Federal Judge in the red state of Montana. He's obviously a supporter of the GOP, and the face of the party of Dixie. Absolute shame. How can you Republicans continue to show yourselves, when your constituents are the most racist and backwards people in this country? How can you claim that you should be in political office, when your ideology is extremely biased against blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Indians, women, and so forth?
I have to agree with pghquest and would add sentences for the same crimes could be compared to see if bias was evident.
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I'd like to see evidence he allowed his personal views to influence his application of the law
Misapplication of the law is not the same as rulings in which personal views influenced his application of the law.
There is absolutely no way to show bias in ruling if no misapplication of the law is committed. There most definitively can be rulings which are biased without being misapplication of the law.
Which did you mean? bias in rulings or misapplication of the law?
I read the articles and I read the Court investigation and judgement. This is for an incident that happened two years ago. The Judge resigned a year ago. The entire thing is interesting and certainly worth a read for anybody who is in business, in government, in anything at all other than living in a cave with zero contact with people and with no assets at all. I guess I must have missed this important story 2 years ago - good thing it was revived.
Judge Cebull brought the case against himself and asked for a Judicial Committee to investigate himself. He traveled to every court in Montana and apologized for the email (his brother originally sent it to him) he forwarded to 6 people. He opened himself to all questions and then he resigned in 2013. The panel of Judges took almost two years to investigate Judge Cebull - they looked at all his emails (both personal and professional) dating back to 2008 - not just the emails he sent, but also the emails he received. They checked his phone records, his fax records and EACH and EVERY case that he had before his court. All his rulings (not a single issue of bias and not a single complaint during the review). They interviewed all attorneys who stood in his court and all the people that worked for the court. They interviewed Judge Cebull's private friends and the people in his town. The Investigating committee did a pretty thorough job. The report was an interesting read.
Quote: "How can you Republicans continue to show yourselves, when your constituents are the most racist and backwards people in this country? How can you claim that you should be in political office, when your ideology is extremely biased against blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Indians, women, and so forth?"
Absolute nonsense! Where are you lefties getting this crap? There are racists in every racial/ethnic group but to stereotype the entire or even the majority of the GOP as being the above is beyond ridiculous and nothing but outright lies!
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Misapplication of the law is not the same as rulings in which personal views influenced his application of the law
There is absolutely no way to show bias in ruling if no misapplication of the law is committed. There most definitively can be rulings which are biased without being misapplication of the law.
Which did you mean? bias in rulings or misapplication of the law?
Judges have discretion in matters such as what is allowed to be entered in evidence, who will be allowed to testify, and what parts of their testimony will be allowed. If examination of a judge's past rulings showed bias in that discretion would that not be a misapplication of the law?
Is there any human being lower than these types? Educated but ignorant. Learned but backwards. Employed to be objective, but bigoted, racist, and biased. This man is a Federal Judge in the red state of Montana. He's obviously a supporter of the GOP, and the face of the party of Dixie. Absolute shame. How can you Republicans continue to show yourselves, when your constituents are the most racist and backwards people in this country? How can you claim that you should be in political office, when your ideology is extremely biased against blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Indians, women, and so forth?
"Is there any human being lower than these types? Educated but ignorant. Learned but backwards. Employed to be objective, but bigoted, racist, and biased...?"
Yes. I have read things many liberals have written and they could just as easily be characterized EXACTLY as you have written it. Yourself included.
Judges have discretion in matters such as what is allowed to be entered in evidence, who will be allowed to testify, and what parts of their testimony will be allowed. If examination of a judge's past rulings showed bias in that discretion would that not be a misapplication of the law?
if that is the evidence you need in this case...good luck acquiring that.
He did not resign because of accuations of his bias in his rulings. You claimed that you needed evidence of bias in his rulings. If you have a way of doing that in this case, then have at it.
You want to argue that there are ways to do that in this case...fine. Now go and do what you need to do to satisfy your evidence needs.
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