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So does that mean we should put monitors on every car that issues you a ticket every time you run a stop sign?
Speaking of driving.
I find it ironic that if you get caught driving WITHOUT your license on you, you can get a ticket.
Try telling the cop, Oh I am a legal driver but, don't have my license with my picture on it with me. Let me continue driving without it and no ticket.
Same with voting. "I am a legal registered voter, trust me".
Even one fraudulent vote cancels out my vote. Another fraudulent vote cancels out anthers. And on and on. Why don't we hand the election over to liberals. That is the goal anyway. We are just going through the motions for them to steal the election anyway.
How do they address fraud even with voter ID's or is that the perfect cure.
If there was ever a questionable election it was 2000 and it sure wasn't stolen by liberals.
I find it ironic that if you get caught driving WITHOUT your license on you, you can get a ticket.
Try telling the cop, Oh I am a legal driver but, don't have my license with my picture on it with me. Let me continue driving without it and no ticket.
Same with voting. "I am a legal registered voter, trust me".
I don't know about your state but if you haven't voted before at a polling place you need to show the registration, if you have voted before you need a signature.
How do they address fraud even with voter ID's or is that the perfect cure.
I can tell you this, in PA they use facial recognition. One face, one ID. Because of the relaxed rules on obtaining a voter only ID it would certainly be possible to obtain a fraudulent one however if it's found to be fraudulent in the future they have a picture of you and it also precludes you from ever getting a legitimate one.
Voter ID is not going to solve the entire issue, absentee ballot fraud also need to be addressed.
How come signing under penalty of perjury was ok until about 10 years ago?
Because we learned that didn't stop fraud. The same way that it used to be OK to put lead in paint. We learned that wasn't a good idea. The same goes for signatures, we learned that it doesn't work to stop fraud.
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Originally Posted by borregokid
How come only Republican states are asking for Id?
Your choice - Because those committing the fraud are more likely to help the Democrats than the Republicans, because the Republican think it's a problem so the Democrats automatically say the opposite.
[quote=borregokid;33136890]Why not provide the ID once when you register and then sign under penalty of perjury like has been done for 100 or more years??
Because that does not work. All that does is show that the person that registered was who they stated, it does nothing to show that the person that showed up and voted was the person registered. As for the signing under perjury, that only works after the fact and if you know that fraud was committed. It doesn't do anything to prevent it from occurring in the first place. Unless you are suggesting that everyone's signature be checked at the time of voting against a known good signature. That might stop fraud, however voting would take about 3.5 months to be completed.
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Originally Posted by borregokid
Now if I decide to let my drivers license expire and ride the bus or live in the sticks I have to drive 40 miles for ID? Thank you Tea Party...you guys should go back to where you came from....under a rock I think...
So your are stating that being personally inconvenienced by having to make a short trip is more important than insuring that our elections are fair and correct. I wonder what those that defied beatings, studies for hours to get their citizenship and the right to vote or endured dangerous day long trips on horseback would say to that.
This is not a Tea Party issue, this is an issue to anyone that wants fair elections.
Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
Speaking of driving.
I find it ironic that if you get caught driving WITHOUT your license on you, you can get a ticket.
Try telling the cop, Oh I am a legal driver but, don't have my license with my picture on it with me. Let me continue driving without it and no ticket.
Same with voting. "I am a legal registered voter, trust me".
I don't know about your state but if you haven't voted before at a polling place you need to show the registration, if you have voted before you need a signature.
That make all the difference. Instead of trust me, it now because "trust me, I'm a legal driver and my name is John Doe. Let me sign a piece of paper saying that. No I would never lie and sign a piece of paper"
I find it ironic that if you get caught driving WITHOUT your license on you, you can get a ticket.
Try telling the cop, Oh I am a legal driver but, don't have my license with my picture on it with me. Let me continue driving without it and no ticket.
Same with voting. "I am a legal registered voter, trust me".
It is the privilege that comes with driving. Maybe we should make a Federal Photo ID card with a microchip in it that allows people to only vote once and must be scanned to vote, wouldn't that solve all your problems with voter fraud?
How do they address fraud even with voter ID's or is that the perfect cure.
If there was ever a questionable election it was 2000 and it sure wasn't stolen by liberals.
All they needed was 600 more dead voters. Luck for us they ran out of dead voters before they reach that.
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