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Old 01-27-2014, 03:36 PM
 
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Being poor does not mean you lose you moral compass and are more prone to sleeping around and getting pregnant.
Moral compass? Cause this is a realistic solution? And its the girls fault? It takes two to tango.
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:27 PM
 
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This values argument is like the homogeneity argument. Its a cop out, with no academic backing.

In Scandinavia, religion does not get in the way of common sense. Teens are well educated about the risks of sex as well as the best ways to protect themselves while doing it. The government makes sure all members of society have access to effective means of birth control if they want, unlike America, where only those who can afford it can get it.

America culture glorifies sex as much, if not more, than many countries. So this Nordic this and US cultural this is unfounded. Everyone is doing the same actions, but the poor lack the means to do it safely. Thus, they have kids earlier etc. etc. one of the main factors that is continuing this vicious cycle of poverty we have here in the states according to many sociologists and political scientists who study wealth inequality.
You made my argument for me. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Too bad you weren't astute enough to recognize it. Maybe your liberal colleague Globe will finally get caught up also.

Checkmate.
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Old 01-27-2014, 08:03 PM
 
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America culture glorifies sex as much, if not more, than many countries.
And how exactly are you measuring that?
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Old 01-27-2014, 09:46 PM
 
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What boat are you talking about? I never equated wealth, or inability to obtain birth control pills with out of wedlock teens. I equated a lack of morals, ethics and a less moralistic society that was creating and even glorifying women raising their "love child" on their own.
Well.. not really on their own, these women become the welfare recipients living it up on the taxpayers' money.
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Old 01-27-2014, 09:51 PM
 
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And why are teen pregnancies very low in the Scandinavian countries, that have Nordic welfare systems?
Culture and the acceptance of sex at very young ages. In the USA, it's the hispanics that have the highest early teen pregnancy rate and it's the hispanic population growth rate that is skyrocketing. Welfare has a lot to do with it also.
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Old 01-28-2014, 02:06 AM
 
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Go to China, India, etc. etc. etc., there aren't no such thing as "teen pregnancy."

We are doing something seriously wrong here.
Boy you're dumb.
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Old 01-28-2014, 02:28 AM
 
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How these idiot unemployed deadbeat boy men who can't/won't support themselves and their offspring, continue to engage in unprotected sex never ceases to amaze me.
All they need is a willing participant who is STUPID with low self esteem.
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Old 01-28-2014, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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All they need is a willing participant who is STUPID with low self esteem.
Stupid is as stupid does and it takes two stupid people to create a baby that neither can afford.

Last edited by middle-aged mom; 01-28-2014 at 09:50 AM..
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Old 01-28-2014, 09:44 AM
 
Location: southern california
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no welfare and indulgent parents and lack of self respect increases teen pregnancy.
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Old 01-28-2014, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Culture and the acceptance of sex at very young ages. In the USA, it's the hispanics that have the highest early teen pregnancy rate and it's the hispanic population growth rate that is skyrocketing. Welfare has a lot to do with it also.
Although Hispanics currently have the highest teen birth rates, they have also the most dramatic recent decline in rates. Since 2007, the teen birth rate has declined by 39% for Hispanics, compared with declines of 29% for blacks and 25% for whites.

Everything you wanted to know about teen birth rates and geographic breakdown:

Trends in Teen Pregnancy and Childbearing - The Office of Adolescent Health

Alaska and Arkansas were eye openers.
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