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Old 01-28-2014, 01:47 PM
 
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Does vote from a top income earner not count as one vote, same as the non-taxpayer?
The votes do count the same, but hey good news-turns out that if you want to buy a politician its a LOT easier to afford for the .1%

Heck if you want you can even have them write custom laws to help you deal with a ex wife that wants child support:

Wealthy divorced donor helped write controversial child-support bill : Wsj

See, for enough money you too can write your own laws!
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Old 01-28-2014, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Does vote from a top income earner not count as one vote, same as the non-taxpayer?
What does that have to do with the percentage of earned income paid? If a top earner pays 2% and the low income earner pays 20% of their income, that doesn't sound very equal to me and I am betting that 20% has a bigger effect on the low income earner.
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Old 01-28-2014, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The votes do count the same, but hey good news-turns out that if you want to buy a politician its a LOT easier to afford for the .1%

Heck if you want you can even have them write custom laws to help you deal with a ex wife that wants child support:

Wealthy divorced donor helped write controversial child-support bill : Wsj

See, for enough money you too can write your own laws!
That hardly sounds fair, that is a great example that money shouldn't be allowed to buy politicians and laws. It seems like a few right wingers on the site think it is one vote per dollar.
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Old 01-28-2014, 01:51 PM
 
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What does that have to do with the percentage of earned income paid? If a top earner pays 2% and the low income earner pays 20% of their income, that doesn't sound very equal to me and I am betting that 20% has a bigger effect on the low income earner.
Which would you rather get?
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Old 01-28-2014, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Which would you rather get?
Who wouldn't want to be a top earner paying very little of the income to taxes and being able to afford to buy politicians and pay to write the laws that specifically favor wealth and people who are the wealthiest.
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Old 01-28-2014, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Obviously the ultra wealthy can afford to pay more. Even the average wealthy can afford to pay more.
The question is: Is it morally right to ask anyone to pay more until the Fed gets its spending under control? In my opinion raising taxes on anyone before you fix the problem only facilitates further waste.
Now our elected reps went through the motions of cutting spending, but made no real attempt to actually do so.
When they pass bills that allow spending on such things as bear DNA, or improving the flavor of endive they are saying these things are more important than reducing our debt or building infrastructure.
The tax inequality is the ability of the FED to impose greater taxes upon we the people, but not be held accountable for the billions in waste.
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:59 PM
 
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The top income pay 35% of all income taxes while the bottom pays very little if any. If you are middle class you pay more than the bottom. What about taxation inequality?
Yes, how silly of people not to think of the plight of the only group of people to actually come out better off from the Great Recession while everyone else struggles and slips.
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Old 01-28-2014, 06:01 PM
 
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The votes do count the same, but hey good news-turns out that if you want to buy a politician its a LOT easier to afford for the .1%

Heck if you want you can even have them write custom laws to help you deal with a ex wife that wants child support:

Wealthy divorced donor helped write controversial child-support bill : Wsj

See, for enough money you too can write your own laws!
How do you buy a politician? Remember the people elected the politicians, not the rich.
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Old 01-28-2014, 06:02 PM
 
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Yes, how silly of people not to think of the plight of the only group of people to actually come out better off from the Great Recession while everyone else struggles and slips.
How silly not to think that when government increases expenses for people who can create jobs that they will not react by cutting spending elsewhere "like jobs".
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Old 01-28-2014, 06:06 PM
 
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How silly not to think that when government increases expenses for people who can create jobs that they will not react by cutting spending elsewhere "like jobs".
And clearly those people are interested in creating jobs, as evidenced by the fact that they're the only group to see their wealth increase during this economic downturn and yet still refuse to create jobs.

Just out of curiosity, how much wealth has to be concentrated among them before they'll actually create some good jobs? Do you have some kind of magic number I could work with?
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