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Old 11-29-2007, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I'm a US Sailor and I know for a fact that even Iran has the capability to take out the entire fith fleet in the Persian Gulf. Here is a link to it:

The Agenda to Sacrifice the Fifth Fleet The New Pearl Harbor
I believe what you are saying; although, I suspect the retaliation against Iran would be fatal------to them.

Too; even with our Fleet there sunk........Iran would be severely damaged in the process.

Methinks the Ayatollahs fear what the article states and are trying to lower the level of rhetoric as well.
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:28 PM
 
Location: I live in Ronan, MT but am stationed in Virginia Beach
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I believe what you are saying; although, I suspect the retaliation against Iran would be fatal------to them.

Too; even with our Fleet there sunk........Iran would be severely damaged in the process.
You are exactly right that is what one of the plans are..or was because the proposal pissed a lot of Military people off. You should read the link that I supplied.
The Neoconservative Agenda to Sacrifice the Fifth Fleet – The New Pearl Harbor [Voltaire]
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:54 PM
 
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I'm a US Sailor and I know for a fact that even Iran has the capability to take out the entire fith fleet in the Persian Gulf. Here is a link to it:

The Agenda to Sacrifice the Fifth Fleet The New Pearl Harbor
ummm, shark bait.

Actually I thought only the Army was this stupid. Nice to know we are all in this together.

Now you all just swab those decks and keep your targets -- er ah, I mean proud Naval ships -- looking ship shape.

So what color made in China "Support Our Saliors" little ribbons would you like for the rest of us to put on the back of our SUVs in your memory?

We will schedule Condi Rice for a speech at the memorial service saying "We could have never seen it coming." She has gotten that one practiced pretty well.

Now what did I do with my little lapel Flag pin?
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:49 AM
 
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Even if Iran managed to sink our entire fifth fleet, the damage to them would be beyond catastrophic. Not to mention the strike capability of US airpower in the region.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Even if Iran managed to sink our entire fifth fleet, the damage to them would be beyond catastrophic. Not to mention the strike capability of US airpower in the region.
Hence the Ayatollahs going Oh Sh.......

Ahmedinajad, Iran's president apparently has been called out by the above.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Here we go again. They are just starting the propaganda campaign to justify additional spending on military contractors. If we just stop going to war every time we get a chance we would not need to waste all this tax money.

I think we could do very nicely by just telling China to keep their wars local (if China decided to conquer Taiwan or even Japan, I could care less – good riddance to our competitors) and if they attack North America we will obliterate them is a suicidal cataclysm. The last is crazy but crazy people are respected. At least they are when they have lots of real WMDs.
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:02 PM
 
Location: I live in Ronan, MT but am stationed in Virginia Beach
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Even if Iran managed to sink our entire fifth fleet, the damage to them would be beyond catastrophic. Not to mention the strike capability of US airpower in the region.
There are are aspects of our government who know this and would like to see it happen. This would be a little like Government Sponserd Terrorism
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:50 PM
 
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There are are aspects of our government who know this and would like to see it happen. This would be a little like Government Sponserd Terrorism
Why so? Perhaps it would give us a reason to go to war with them but there a numerous other reasons (and less lethal) we could find to fight them if we had to
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:17 PM
 
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When I was in the Navy 35 years ago the life of an aircraft carrier was 15minutes. It was presumed that because we knew twenty four seven the precise location of every Russian vessel including their (hehe) electronic fishing boats. We presumed they knew the precise location of each of our ships as well. Guess that is why the fishing boats were waiting for us when we reached our destinations. Nowadays, could they sink our fleet pretty quickly or visa versa? You reckin?
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