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Old 02-05-2014, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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you realize the premise of this thread is to do away with said regulations, right?
To do that one must first repeal the laws upon which the regulations are based.
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:34 PM
 
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you realize the premise of this thread is to do away with said regulations, right?
no its not. its to reign in the EPA and get them to stop doing things without the approval of congress. they already have the approval to go after gross polluters, they just wont do it. they would rather add on new regulations than enforce the ones already on the books.
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Old 02-06-2014, 01:58 PM
 
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tell that to the people in charleston, wv
Did I say we shouldn't have any environmental laws at all????? Good grief, is this type of grade school banter all you have.
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Old 02-06-2014, 02:03 PM
 
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you realize the premise of this thread is to do away with said regulations, right?
No. We have an irresponsible and destructive EPA. They are writing their own laws, pronouncing the guilty, and handing out punishments, in other words they have taken on the powers of the legislative judicial and executive branch onto themselves. They need to be reined in.
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Old 02-06-2014, 02:06 PM
 
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too bad. that still doesn't give them the right to pollute the public air and water, or put the public's health at risk.

i must've missed where the constitution outlines the "right to burn coal" or the "right to cheap electricity"
That's funny, citing the US Constitution when the powers of the EPA are listed nowhere in the Constitution.
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Old 02-07-2014, 03:04 PM
 
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that assumes they have the money to pay for that electricity. remember if you kill the coal and natural gas electric infrastructure, you kill jobs, and when you kill jobs people wont have the money to buy the electricity that is being produced by other methods due to the cost.

also remember that some areas of the country wont be able to replace shut down coal and natural gas power plants anytime soon, so there will be power outages and brown outs as part of the normal course of events. and because coal and natural gas plants produce a substantial portion of the electricity in this country, the outages and brown out will be quite widespread.
The EPA is out of control, it needs to be reformed.

Case in point, 250,000 job at stake as coal miners beg the EPA to back off from their war against coal

Six major unions beg the Senate to stop EPA coal regulations | The Daily Caller

“During the rulemaking process our unions stated for the record that MATS and its short compliance timeline would result in the closing of 56 Gigawatts of coal-fired generation and the loss of approximately 250,000 jobs.
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Old 02-09-2014, 01:48 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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We Need To Rein In The EPA!!!

No.... we need to end it.
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Old 02-09-2014, 03:33 PM
 
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We Need To Rein In The EPA!!!

No.... we need to end it.
i disagree. the EPA has good reason to be in place, but it needs to stop making massive amounts of regulations, and get to the job of enforcing the regulations that are on the books now.
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Old 02-09-2014, 03:58 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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i disagree. the EPA has good reason to be in place, but it needs to stop making massive amounts of regulations, and get to the job of enforcing the regulations that are on the books now.
Except for the fact that the Federal Government has no Constitutional jurisdiction over the "environment".
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Old 02-09-2014, 04:03 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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waiting on a state to sue the EPA for violating constitutional boundaries.
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