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Progressives believe that people are evil and will usually do the "wrong thing" if not controlled by others. They can't be trusted to "do the right thing".
Remember when impeached President Clinton said that he was against a middle-class tax cut because the people "would not spend it the right way".
Well they may have a point- they definitely stink at voting.
Dont the people also control the businesses by voting to spend dollars and do business with them?
That's what people who adore the free market say. What about when businesses become so big that they control the production, distribution, and market cost of all their products?
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What a bunch of babbling nonsense. We spend more money than almost every other country in the world on education..
And yet, because of mismanagement, they trail behind other countries that spend less. The right prefers to demonize public education and public educators rather than trying to address the problems. Their solution is, "oh well, it sucks! See? It's bad, because it's public! Can't trust anything public!"
That's what people who adore the free market say. What about when businesses become so big that they control the production, distribution, and market cost of all their products?
So you object to things which dont exist? I dont like unicorns either, so I'm not going to ride one EVER!!!
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And yet, because of mismanagement, they trail behind other countries that spend less. The right prefers to demonize public education and public educators rather than trying to address the problems. Their solution is, "oh well, it sucks! See? It's bad, because it's public! Can't trust anything public!"
So how does spending more moeny, address the problem?
I have not talked to any yet that have not found a better plan.
Once they got over the nonsence and looked they are all pretty happy.
Seriously. I had a plan I liked, inexpensive, decent deductible with catastrophic and long term illness plan. Your hero destroyed it. Now I am facing 5 times the expense, 8 times higher deductible with all the extra garbage that I don't need. Such as maternity. I am a single guy. Why do I need maternity? Why do I need birth control? Why do I need pap smears? Why do I need breast exams? Why do I need anything to do with women's health?
You must have no friends because everyone I have talked to are infuriated over the lies and the wrecking of their health plans.
I agree with this and hope you did not agree with bailouts of greedy banks and Auto companies. I would hope you see the repeal of Glass Steegal and too big to fail have decimated the middle class.
Of course I was opposed to the bailouts. It's a shame that Bush rammed them through, and I was appalled that Obama let them continue.
Glass-Steagal never should have been appealed and I would support seeing similar measures that kept banks from getting involved in securities. Commercial and investment banking should not be one and the same.
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Agree that a stable strong middle class will make America strong. Collective bargaining via unions failed to do that. Unions are corrupt and have criminal elements embedded. They also have a heirarchy that became no different then the corporate boards you despise. They lost their usefullness and hurt the middle class by costing workers credibility.
Over time, they did; I was a member of the Teamsters for a few years and found that it was stifling to my career, so I left and found a private company that operated fairly and allowed people to rise to promotion - I was lucky...
But, putting all the eggs in the baskets of the people who own companies, allowing them to decide how they want the labor laws, pay, vacation, benefits, etc to work has been an experiment that's gone on too long and has resulted in the erosion of the middle class. If we don't want to go back to collective bargaining then it's time to make the government do it's job and protect the people that control it - and not the oligarchs and their lobbyists.
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Government should not be on the side of the people it is supposed to be BY the people.
If it is BY the people, then it is on their side. Same difference.
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Right now it is not by the people it is by lobbyists, ex bank executives helping their friends, and a slew of other plutocrats who have only one goal- to remain in power and stay wealthy.
Independent people scare the USG.
A subordinate people are dependent on the USG.
When you have dependent people you really do have the control you want.
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