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Old 02-14-2014, 03:10 PM
 
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Wow, I actually agree with T-310 for once.

Let me tell you why; up in the DC area my best friend is in IT working in the private sector and makes around 50k a year. His friend who knows about a tenth as much as him and has no college makes 3 times more as a contractor for the NSA. This is BS!
Clinton slashed the military budget and used the money to contract out functions the military used to exclusively handle. One of those functions is intelligence gathering and analyzing. So Clinton got to say he saved money when in reality he made it available to contractors to put more people to work.

Blackwater and many more organizations profit from contracts for the military. Why Iraq coalition Gov demanded the private security companies get out of Iraq due to the indiscriminate killing they were engaged in.

This is the end result of that program.
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Old 02-14-2014, 03:12 PM
 
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Not the part the Republicans will go along with, no. Face it, the GOP has its hands in the POCKETS of the national security industries. Won't get a single Republican vote (beyond maybe Rand Paul) to defund what must be a trillion dollar industry.
Bingo.

Majority of wasted taxpayer money goes to corporate subsidy, namely defense contractors.

Carlyle Group anyone?
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Old 02-14-2014, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Clinton slashed the military budget and used the money to contract out functions the military used to exclusively handle. One of those functions is intelligence gathering and analyzing. So Clinton got to say he saved money when in reality he made it available to contractors to put more people to work.

Blackwater and many more organizations profit from contracts for the military. Why Iraq coalition Gov demanded the private security companies get out of Iraq due to the indiscriminate killing they were engaged in.

This is the end result of that program.
They NEVER point out where Republican votes were in any of these budgetary actions. Yeh, I do know how Clinton triangulated off what Republicans would have done anyway, but it is historical revisionism to think Clinton somehow rammed any budget down the throats of Republican opposition.
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Old 02-14-2014, 03:24 PM
 
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I watched a news program recently were they said that the riches area codes in the U.S. are no longer in New York for Wall Street, or California for Hollywood but rather in Virginia for defense contractors. It's obvious too by the way that Sen. Dianne Feinstein and Rep. Mike Rogers shill for their wealthy patrons the Surveillance Industrial Complex.

Hey, didn't DNI James Clapper come from contractor Booze Allen Hamilton, too?
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Old 02-14-2014, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Two places I know have always been up there. Connecticut (insurance) and Virginia (federal pork) You hear all sort of nonsense about the need to eliminate pork, but incumbents just want to keep serving it up and getting re-elected.
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Old 02-14-2014, 03:35 PM
 
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I watched a news program recently were they said that the riches area codes in the U.S. are no longer in New York for Wall Street, or California for Hollywood but rather in Virginia for defense contractors. It's obvious too by the way that Sen. Dianne Feinstein and Rep. Mike Rogers shill for their wealthy patrons the Surveillance Industrial Complex.

Hey, didn't DNI James Clapper come from contractor Booze Allen Hamilton, too?
Feinstein could probably buy Hollywood with all the money she gets from AIPAC.
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Old 02-14-2014, 03:46 PM
 
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Frontline did an expose that revealed that 1 million people...civilian and military, work in our intelligence apparatus.

That's more than 5 times what I would've guessed.

And the CIA's budget alone is still secret.
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Old 02-14-2014, 03:52 PM
 
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Frontline did an expose that revealed that 1 million people...civilian and military, work in our intelligence apparatus.

That's more than 5 times what I would've guessed.

And the CIA's budget alone is still secret.
And the NSA budget is 5 times bigger than the CIA...

Remind me why we need to spy on Angela Merkel's cell phone when people in this country are starving?
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Old 02-14-2014, 03:54 PM
 
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Hey now! Leave the CIA alone, they give me some money every year!

(Actually they dont pay as well as you would think). The NSA however.....now theres some money!
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Old 02-14-2014, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Our "security structure" has grown massively in the last decade. We've had it back to Wilson's regime, but at no time did it explode like it has since 9/11. I think the majority of voters don't have a clue, many don't WANT clue.
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