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Originally Posted by BoomBen
As horrible as it is -It is not our business.
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Then stop bank-rolling it.
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Originally Posted by urbanlife78
Does the OP want us to invade the country or something and start policing them?
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You've been in Ukraine since Clinton....this would be another area that's out of your league.
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom
OP: You expect the US to intervene?
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You
are intervening. You've been intervening since 1994. Quit acting like your hands are clean.
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Originally Posted by s1alker
You can't tell me Washington/CIA isn't behind this in some fashion.
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My faith is restored....someone actually gets it.
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009
Oh no?
We can have an ally in the Ukraine as a new member of NATO, or a Russian ally.
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You want Ukraine aligned with Russia....that will save the lives of millions of people.
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Originally Posted by urbanlife78
So what should Obama do that would make you happy in this situation?
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Obama should issue an Executive Order demanding that the Neo-Conservatives he picked to be on his White House Staff, and the Neo-Conservatives that run your Alphabet Agencies since Carter was president to stop bank-rolling opposition parties.
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Originally Posted by Chimuelojones
Humans fighting for more liberty should be everyone's concern.
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They are fighting for your Standard of Living, not their liberty.
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom
Do you think the U.S.should impose itself in this?
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You imposed yourself in 1994.
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Originally Posted by jojajn
Isn't that up to the people of Ukraine?
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I'm sure it will be just as soon as Obama issues an Executive Order to stop bank-rolling the opposition.
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Originally Posted by Ponderosa
stay out of it...
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Originally Posted by Feltdesigner
not our business...
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Originally Posted by MIKEETC
It's an internal matter of another country. It's not our business even if Ukraine is a potential ally.
[we should stay neutral]
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Then stop funding opposition parties.
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Originally Posted by T-310
In the meantime, the Ukraine is looking to the US to stave off Putin, and Obama just sticks his head in the sand. Putin will try to revive the old Soviet Empire with himself as supreme dictator and the Ukraine will crumble.
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No, exactly the opposite. Putin is your hero and friend, not your enemy.
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Originally Posted by Vergofa
If Obama had maintained a relationship with Putin, none of this might be happening.
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Yes....it would be happening.....and it would be happening no matter who was president.
As I have commented on 1500x, this is part and parcel of your Geo-Political Strategy.
Like I have said 2500x....it doesn't matter who you elect....when it is time to go into Syria or Iran or anywhere else....you are going to go in.
I don't care if you elect a Democrat or a Republican or if Mother-friggin'-Teresa was president....when it is time,
you will go.
The End-Game of your Geo-Strategy is the eastern Russian territories -- Siberia.
It has been since sometime in 1974-1976 when the Social Democrats became Neo-Conservatives.
In order to control eastern Russia, you must control Central Asia --- you had control, but you lost it, because you could not push your hegemony.
In order to control Central Asia, you must control Iran.
From a purely objective stand-point ---
without any moral or ethical consideration --- this is the correct strategy to pursue.
If you ask me,
"Mircea.....set up a plan so I can achieve Check-Mate and win the game and own the World."
1] Gain control of the Mediterranean Basin to deny Russia any potential allies; to deny the Russian navy the use of any ports; and to deny Russia the use of any States to locate airbases for fighters or bombers....
a) Yugoslavia: Check
b) Libya: Check
c) Syria: In progress
2] Gain control of the Black Sea basin to permit US bases for ground troops, aircraft and naval facilities....
a) Turkey: Check
b) Bulgaria: Check
c) Romania: Check
d) Ukraine: In Progress
3] Obtain air, highway and rail access from the Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean to Central Asia...
a) Iraq: Check
b) Kuwait: Check
c) Iran: In Progress
4] Gain control of the 5 Central Asian States with 5x-7x more oil than the entire Middle East/North Africa...
a) Kazakhstan: On Deck
b) Turkmenistan: On Deck
c) Uzbekistan: On Deck
d) Tajikistan: On Deck
e) Kyrgyzstan: On Deck
5] Gain control of eastern Russian territories with 2x more oil than all of Central Asia....
a) Channel money to opposition groups
b) Arm opposition groups
c) Wait for Russia to respond
d) Use Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Iraq, Iran and Kazakhstan as bases to operate No-Fly Zone to prevent Russia from interfering
e) Hoist the US flag over eastern Russia and rape all the natural resources.
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Originally Posted by CousinMaynard
theres alot ignorance in this thread.
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Thanks for contributing yours....
Mircea