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Old 02-24-2014, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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YAWN.

Long story short .... rat poison is good for you! Drink up now, trust us ... rat's may die, but they do have great teeth.
Fluoride, the 13th most abundant element on the earth's crust, is a chemical ion of the element fluorine - fluoride has one extra electron that gives it a negative charge.

Fluoride is found naturally in soil, water, foods, and several minerals, such as fluorapatite and fluorite.

Fluoride concentration in seawater averages 1.3 ppm (parts per million), while in fresh water supplies the natural range is typically between 0.01 to 0.3 ppm.

Why is fluoride added to drinking water?
Water authorities add fluoride to tap-water because they say it reduces the prevalence of tooth decay in the local population.

In the early 1930s, scientists found that people who were brought up in areas with naturally fluoridated water had up to two-thirds fewer cavities compared to those who lived in areas where the water was not fluoridated.

Several studies since then have repeatedly shown that when fluoride is added to people's drinking water in areas where levels are low, tooth decay decreases.

most of the countries in Europe which do not have water fluoridation , they use "salt fluoridation, much like we used salt iodination.

What does fluoride do?
Fluoride is said to protect the teeth in two ways:◾Protection from demineralization - when bacteria in the mouth combine with sugars they produce acid. This acid can erode tooth enamel and damage our teeth. Fluoride can protect teeth from demineralization that is caused by the acid.

◾Remineralization - if there is already some damage to teeth caused by acid, fluoride accumulates in the demineralized areas and begins strengthening the enamel, a process called remineralization.
Fluoride is extremely useful in preventing cavities and making teeth stronger. However, it is much less effective if a cavity has already formed.

According to the National Health Service, fluoride disrupts the process of tooth decay by:◾altering the structure of the developing enamel so that it is more resistant to acid attack. These structural changes occur as a child's enamel develops (before he/she is seven years old).
◾providing an environment where better quality enamel is formed, which is much more resistant to acid attack
◾reducing the bacteria's (bacteria in plaque) ability to produce acid, a major cause of tooth decay

Who needs fluoride?
Virtually all public health authorities and medical associations worldwide recommend that children and adults receive a minimum (and maximum) level of fluoride. Children need fluoride to protect their permanent teeth as they are being formed. Adults also need fluoride to protect their teeth from decay.

Several people, especially those at higher risk of tooth decay, benefit from fluoride treatment. This includes individuals who have:◾Snacking habits
◾Poor dental hygiene
◾No (or little) access to a dentist
◾Diets that are high in sugars/carbohydrates
◾Bridges, crowns, braces, and other restoration procedures
◾A history of tooth decay (cavities)


Some natural water has too much fluoride
According to WHO, millions of people around the world are exposed to excessively high levels of fluoride through drinking water that is contaminated from natural geological sources.

High concentrations of fluoride occur in several parts of the world, including southern Asia, the Eastern Mediterranean and Africa. There is an area that extends from Turkey and stretches all the way to China (via Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, India and northern Thailand) where water fluoride levels are high.

In some arid parts of Africa where fluoride levels in water are high, there are no alternative sources of water.
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Old 02-24-2014, 09:07 AM
 
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The sudo-science that get posted on this subject is always good for a few laughs. Yelling that fluoride is used for this and that is like worrying that chloride is found in some foods and also in hydrochloric acid.

Yes, high levels of fluoride is poisonous, but the same is true with iron, several vitamins, all salts (even simple table salt) etc.
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Old 02-24-2014, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Default Fluoride

Dr. Joseph Mercola: Harvard Study Confirms Fluoride Reduces Children's IQ

Dangers of fluoride are significant | ABQJournal Online

There are studies that now prove Fluoride lowers the IQ of children. It was already known that it calcifies the pineal gland and makes water taste terrible, but still people persist on this form of mass medication of the public. Once fluoride is in the drinking water it is extremely hard to remove, with an expensive reverse osmosis system being one of the only ways. And when it is in the public supply of water, it is in nearly every food or beverage in some form or another. And it is not the natural form of fluoride, but industrial waste mainly from aluminum use.

Take care of your kids damn teeth and stop eating so much candy and sugar if you're so concerned about "cavities".
Don't medicate the mass public with poison.

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Old 02-24-2014, 09:51 AM
 
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Frankly, I'm surprised Wrigley isn't selling fluoride chewing gum.

Most all gum manufactures have aspartame chewing gum, now.

I remember when Dentyne used to brag that their sugar gum prevented cavities by cleaning your teeth while you chew.

They even had "Dent" in their name!

Orly Taitz might have something to say about this type of sophisticated scamming.

Dentyne Classic Cinnamon Gum - Candy you ate as a kid®

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Old 02-24-2014, 10:02 AM
 
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This subject is an Agenda 21 issue.

It seems to have gotten loose from the broadthread.
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:03 AM
 
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If Mercola said water is wet, I'd have to check it myself before I'd believe it. I can't think of anyone I respect less in that field. Okay, maybe dr. oz.
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:04 AM
 
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Frankly, I'm surprised Wrigley isn't selling fluoride chewing gum.
They could market it as Numb Numb Gum.

It's Nummie!
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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The report only applies to highly fluoridated water. In most American towns where water is fluoridated the level is around 1ppm. That is not a high level. If towns have paid attention, they have lowered their fluoride levels to .7ppm under the revised recommended levels of the federal government. The lower level is needed to reflect how commonly fluoride is found elsewhere in beverages, food and toothpaste. And to help children not get fluorosis of the teeth.
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:07 AM
 
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The report only applies to highly fluoridated water. Most towns where water is fluoridated the level is around 1ppm. That is not a high level. If towns have paid attention, they have lowered their fluoride levels to .7ppm under the revised recommended levels of the federal government.
Show us the science of how proper levels were decided.

Or, show us the politic of how proper levels were decided.

And, don't come back with the truth that science and politics are one and the same.
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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Note that the study was conducted in China.
Rural communities with fluoride levels over 1 mg/L in well water have lower average IQs than communities with safe and treated drinking water. Fluoride levels in treated US drinking water is well below 1 mg/L.

Developmental Fluoride Neurotoxicity: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis
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