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Old 12-04-2007, 09:33 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Okay. Bush-bashing may re-commence now.

At your request.............

America can sleep well tonight, secure in the knowledge that Bush will never let intelligence influence his decisions
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Old 12-05-2007, 07:59 AM
 
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Iran remains a danger to the world even though it stopped a program to develop a nuclear weapon four years ago, President Bush said Tuesday.

"Iran was dangerous, Iran is dangerous and Iran will be dangerous if they have the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon,"
According to Bush's logic, we should be locking up alot of otherwise benign people, just because they have knowledge (and I suppose, he doesn't). In fact the general blueprints to make a nuclear bomb are in the public domain.

Thank God we only have a wee bit more time until this joker is out of here.

The intelligence community is generally thorough and not something to be laughed off, when the results they produce aren't politicized. The CIA's analysis of Iraq was heavily politicized, with dissenting voices silenced or asked to leave, from the beginning it was made clear the Pentagon and Cheney's cadre would be in charge, or else. Another thing Bush should be impeached for, politicizing matters of national security.
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Old 12-05-2007, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Poor Guy. He wants SO BAD to attack Iran. And now he gets that "Bad" news it is not as terrible as he had hoped.


President Bush, trying to keep pressure on Iran, called on Tehran Wednesday to "come clean" about the scope of its nuclear activities or else face diplomatic isolation.

Two days after a new intelligence report said that Iran had halted its nuclear weapons program four years ago, Bush demanded that Tehran detail its previous program to develop nuclear weapons "which the Iranian regime has yet to acknowledge."

Bush's public remarks, coupled with frenzied contacts with world leaders by Bush, Rice and Hadley, show a White House trying to keep the world on board with its hard line against Tehran — an uphill effort now, according to most analysts.

Bush calls on Iran to 'come clean' - Yahoo! News (broken link)
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Default Brits: Iran punked the CIA on Nukes

British spy chiefs have grave doubts that Iran has mothballed its nuclear weapons programme, as a US intelligence report claimed last week, and believe the CIA has been hoodwinked by Teheran.

Analysts believe that Iranian staff, knowing their phones were tapped, deliberately gave misinformation

The timing of the CIA report has also provoked fury in the British Government, where officials believe it has undermined efforts to impose tough new sanctions on Iran and made an Israeli attack on its nuclear facilities more likely.

Iran 'hoodwinked' CIA over nuclear plans - Telegraph
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Old 12-13-2007, 07:39 AM
 
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Cool Why did the US get the WMD Issue in Iran wrong?

Why did the US get the WMD Issue in Iran wrong?

Last edited by TnHilltopper; 12-13-2007 at 08:45 AM.. Reason: unessesary text
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:36 AM
 
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Default Iran and Nukes - Notable opinion voiced today...

Anyone serious about this issue should read Henry Kissinger's words in today's Washington Post.
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...d=opinionsbox1
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Anyone serious about this issue should read Henry Kissinger's words in today's Washington Post.
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...d=opinionsbox1
I saw this too, but wasn't going to point it out because I figured it would turn into another Bush bashing discussion, and a conspiracy with Kissinger's support. Can't convince those folks otherwise.

But in hindsight, you were right in posting this. The most important part of the article to me is the parsing of the three central issues, and how Iran is still pressing forward.
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:43 AM
 
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Anyone serious about this issue should read Henry Kissinger's words in today's Washington Post.
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...d=opinionsbox1
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I figured it would turn into another Bush bashing discussion, and a conspiracy with Kissinger's support. Can't convince those folks otherwise.
Conspiracy is nothing more than people agreeing to take a course of action. "1. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act."

Henry, Henry, Henry... I have always wondered about Kissinger since he did that interview back in the late 70's with Barbara Walters when she asked him who he most feared in Washington. He responded with, "Jimmy Carter" to which Barbara replied in a rather shocked expression... WHY. Kissinger said, "Because he has morals".

Of course Kissinger, Fred Thompson, Norman Poderhertz, and the whole neoconservative rule the world according to page 47 of Machiavelli types are jumping up and down frothing at the mouth.

Apparently every intelligence agency in the US and several from abroad are all apart of a great conspiracy to make Bush look like a war mongering fool... well guess what guys, too late.
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Looks like Kissinger doesn't like the fact that the Dubya Administration's politicization of the intelligence services can cut both ways, politically speaking.
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Old 12-13-2007, 10:09 AM
 
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Nuclear weapon facilities are built on top of dirt, Iran has dirt, hence Iran must be building a nuclear weapon, see there is proof even if 16 different intelligence agencies say there isn't.

Is Iran a threat, certainly but is it really the potential WWIII and global nuclear holocaust as portrayed? (eruption of laughter) sure it is.
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