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Old 03-12-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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What does it matter? Even if the republicans win the senate Obama can veto anything and still pass what he wants via executive decision. As I said before, I expect republicans to do well this midterm, the vote is normally low and nobody really cares since it's not a presidential election.
"What does it matter?'

The fact that you ask the question shows you lack of knowledge on politics.
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Old 03-12-2014, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Do you like it that he passes laws via executive decision? It's a horrible precedent. And that's on top of his already built-in regulatory powers that make presidents these days so powerful. There is no longer a balance of powers, and hasn't been for years. It's not good for this country, no matter who is president.
Meh. Trying to paint Obama's use of executive decisions is as phony as a hurricane in a fish bowl. He hasn't used his powers as much as many past Presidents, and he's used them more often than others.

Executive powers are always unpopular to some degree with half of us every time, except for the routine ones that are signed daily.

Every president uses the power frequently when he signs off a proposed name for a court house, or a post office, or any other trivial thing that by law he is required to decide.

The power has been there from the start. There's no precedent, horrible or not. Our first presidents didn't use them very often, but the practice became more common way back, especially during the Civil War, and was widely used throughout the 20th century.

If the balance of power is so diminished as you think, then why is Congress so unpopular now? The fact is, Congress is still plenty powerful, as is the Supreme Court. All 3 branches of our government have changed back and forth in their powers, and all of them will continue to shift forever, but the balances of the Constitution are still intact.

FDR used executive privilege almost 300 times. That's over 10 times more than any other President.
Many of his decisions were overturned later by the Supreme Court, and he knew they would be when he used them, but they all got the job done for the moment in time when they were needed to put America back on it's feet, and when we needed to win the biggest war in the history of mankind.
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Old 03-12-2014, 11:48 AM
 
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The WSJ is owned by News Corp, Inc. who also owns Fox News.

This same poll also shows Congress in the toilet. 54% would replace every rep and senator.
Ooh, the Fox News boogeyman again?

And you know full well the 54% is bs. All your congressman has to do is please you and his or her constituents, not the rest of the country. It makes for an interesting poll, but it's meaningless.
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Old 03-12-2014, 11:58 AM
 
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This is going to hurt his chances of re-election in 2016.

I'm not voting for him.
Can not handle the truth Don? Perhaps you can tell us how this President has restored the Hope to America as he promised when he walked through those Greek Columns in Denver. Just try not to be too funny. It is a serious subject on the amount of criminality that has taken place in his administration.
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Old 03-12-2014, 11:59 AM
 
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The WSJ is owned by News Corp, Inc. who also owns Fox News.

This same poll also shows Congress in the toilet. 54% would replace every rep and senator.
It is a WSJ/NBC poll- you know NBC the parent company of that news station that "leans foward".
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:29 PM
 
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Perhaps the people are finally seeing past this president's perpetual scapegoating, endless platitudes, and teleprompter speeches. Perhaps they have realized, as Clint implied, that beyond all the talk, there really is no one in that empty chair.
You hit the nail on the head. Americans relate to strong leadership decisive decision making on both side of the isle.
I would venture to say s we get close to the mid terms we will see the presidents own party run and hide as the cycle of losing seats begins.

It would be saf to say its no longer Bushed fault!
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:38 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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NBC News White House Correspondent Chuck Todd explained this morning when a president's numbers hit a certain level it's very detrimental to an upcoming midterm election. He said to expect to see the WH to do everything they can to get the numbers up with the base over the next 6 months, especially in an attempt to hold onto the Senate which they are in real danger of losing.

Of course that'll just totally rile up independents and the GOP, but they don't care, they need the Senate.
Cue today's announcement:

Obama to order expansion of overtime pay - The Washington Post

Just add this to the recent list:

raise the minimum wage
refocus on climate change, see Senate all nighter
gay marriage
tax fairness (make the rich pay their fair share)
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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Link: WSJ/NBC News Poll: Obama's Approval Rating Hits New Low - WSJ.com

Another poll that shows his job approval numbers dropping to a new low. Can you imagine how low it would be if the media treated him like they do Republicans?
I'm not sure you understand the implications of everything this article mentioned. More and more Americans are becoming more apathetic about politics is what's really happening.

I've stated before that the U.S. is a center-right country, with about 60-65 percent "right" of center and 35-40 percent "left" of center. Of course, you'd expect it to be 50-50, but in general, conservative principles overall are slightly more popular than liberal principles. This is true in most groups.

The Republicans are well aware of this, and know that if they ran an in-touch, moderate candidate (think Scott Brown or Olympia Snowe), they would crush the opposition in most places. But the far right 20 percent also knows this, and they realize they can have more of a voice and about 35-40 percent would follow regardless. So the far right 20 percent has waged war against the more moderate factions.

So the Democrats in response have run a "at least we're not them" campaign. It worked for a while. Then the Democrats started doing liberal things that turned off the roughly 20-25 percent of the population that mostly supported them because they felt that the Republicans were nuts. But they still feel that the Republicans are nuts.

This 20-25 percent is going to keep growing as the Republicans get more ideologically pure and the Democrats can't count on moderate votes. It's a vicious cycle and it's wrecking us politically.
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:47 PM
 
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It is a WSJ/NBC poll- you know NBC the parent company of that news station that "leans foward".
Here is what those on the "right" don't get.
We knew what we were doing when we elected President Obama but the "right wing" was blind sided with stupid crap like "Abortions" ( which has been legal since 1971) and Gay Marriage.

Keep going down that road and you will also lose the "potheads".

GOP "mantra" ? "God,Guns and Gays"? and we have to worry why you idiots like Putin?
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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How it could take any rational human being six years to figure that out is beyond me. But, better late than never.
Agreed, but look at our education system here in the US.
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