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Old 03-23-2014, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Where it's cold in winter.
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Originally Posted by Sharks With Lasers View Post
Social justice is about equal opportunity, not everyone having equal stuff. A system that opposes social justice would be feudalism. Do you want to go back to the days of barons, lords, vassals, and whatnot?
Any kind of social engineering by government (such as requiring banks to make loans to people with no ability to pay them back) will lead to trouble, and is not good policy. Government cannot guarantee "equal opportunity" any more than it can guarantee "equal outcome." Opportunity is largely created by the individual through individual effort.

The concept of government created "equal opportunity" leads to other forms of discrimination that are just as bad as racial discrimination. As an example are laws that force a business to hire someone less qualified for a position than someone more qualified, because they are required to maintain a "racial balance" in their business, based on local demographics. Meanwhile, that business's competitor may end up with the more qualified person because the competitor was within the targeted balance ratio. None of this kind of government interference is fair, nor has it any place in a free republic.

 
Old 03-23-2014, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Where it's cold in winter.
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Another thread grounded in the insistence of some right-wingers to willfully fail to understand the meaning of words.
Can you be more specific? What words do you thing that the OP does not understand?
 
Old 03-23-2014, 07:14 AM
bUU
 
Location: Florida
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I have no reason to believe that you're even slightly confused about my comment, especially since the OP put specific words in quotation marks in the thread title. Given that, it would be pretty stupid to placate your feigned interest and pander to your echo-chamber. Let someone whose partisan political perspectives aren't so ridiculously obvious from their previous postings ask clarifying questions, if they are confused, instead of engaging in childish games to try to waste my time and attention.
 
Old 03-23-2014, 07:22 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by Sharks With Lasers View Post
Social justice is about equal opportunity, not everyone having equal stuff.
If that is so, can you explain why de Blasio and Obama took charter schools and a school voucher program away from students who didn't have an equal opportunity to go to good schools?
 
Old 03-23-2014, 07:23 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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That's funny. It is those crying for "social justice" who wish to give more power to government which is basically what them barons and lords were.
Excellent point! Bet they didn't even think of that.
 
Old 03-23-2014, 07:41 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Excellent point! Bet they didn't even think of that.
Our government is comprised of elected officials. Barons and lords were not elected.

Nice try.
 
Old 03-23-2014, 07:50 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Our government is comprised of elected officials. Barons and lords were not elected.
Why do Democrats elect the evil rich, America's aristocracy, to Congress? Shouldn't they only be electing commoners, not the elite?
 
Old 03-23-2014, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Our government is comprised of elected officials. Barons and lords were not elected.

Nice try.
No, more like "selected" officials.
We get to pick from the selections someone else made and put on the ballot.
 
Old 03-23-2014, 08:05 AM
 
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Our government is comprised of elected officials. Barons and lords were not elected.

Nice try.
As was Obama who is behaving as he was elected TWICE to by the majority of the nation so what's the big deal here with the losers whining at every turn.

Field a better candidate and you'll have your turn to undo the damage you suggest he's done all by himself.

Supposing you find a better candidate (none I've seen would be fit to run a kindergarten much less a country), and supposing you actually get one of those nuts elected, my bet would be that not only would they NOT dismantle anything done by Obama but they would take it two steps further, as has been the general practice over decades of experience.

You folks have been shouting the very same insults across the playground for a hundred years or more to no avail. When are you going to learn it's your fubar'ed system of paid lobbyists, billionaire political contributors and PAC's that have gotten you where you are today. It should be obvious to even the most retarded as to why you have devolved to only a two party system in reality.

Your leader is 'bought and paid for' before he even sits in the big chair and it matters little what color his socks are, red or blue. ~ THATS the problem with your sham of a democracy. Fix that and get it correct and you'll revert to what your forefathers had actually envisioned for a Democratic Republic.
 
Old 03-23-2014, 08:07 AM
 
Location: USA
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I can't believe this is actually a thread.

Wait.

I know exactly why this is a thread.


Petch, keep being a good party lap dog.
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