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Ya they sure are aggrasive!!!!!! (I really wonder if ppl train them to be that way)
As I pointed out, if a Golden Retriever or Newfoundland sticks his head on your lap to be petted and you don't respond immediately, you will be savagely mauled.
Running errands today I stopped by a high-end puppy store in an affluent suburb. They had an 11 week old yellow lab-golden mix in the window. They said that "pit training" for attacks and maulings would come later.
My favorite was the last post in the thread. The one that blamed " the mother". You know, the lady that's been dead since 2011, leaving several orphans including the victim and his big sister who no doubt thought she was " just giving these dogs the good home they deserve." I'm pretty sure she didn't train them to kill the baby brother she was trying to rescue from the foster care system.
Pitbull nuts are like gun nuts or anti-abortion nuts. There is no situation ever, when the dogs breed was a factor, the assailant should not have had access to a weapon, or the fetus didn't stand a chance.
There's no reasoning with them. We are wasting bandwidth.
All you Pittie lovers are right. It was totally those orphans fault. That stupid big sister should have known better than to try to leave her little brother at home with her " house pets". I watched other people's kids at his age, but he was Too Young! Stupid, irresponsible girl should be put in jail while the nice pitties should be re-homed.
Please stop comparing pitbull apologists with "gun nuts".
While I am not sure what your definition is of a gun nut, I suspect it includes people who are passionate about protecting our 2nd Amendment constitutional rights.
Unlike pitbulls, guns do not have the ability to kill or maim in and of themselves. They are a inanimate tool that cannot harm anyone without a human being involved.
The same cannot be said about pits.
Please stop comparing pitbull apologists with "gun nuts".
While I am not sure what your definition is of a gun nut, I suspect it includes people who are passionate about protecting our 2nd Amendment constitutional rights.
Unlike pitbulls, guns do not have the ability to kill or maim in and of themselves. They are a inanimate tool that cannot harm anyone without a human being involved.
The same cannot be said about pits.
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Naw, I'm a 2nd amendment supporter, too. But there are those that take it to crazy town. You know exactly what I mean. Every group has their fringe element.
Please stop comparing pitbull apologists with "gun nuts".
While I am not sure what your definition is of a gun nut, I suspect it includes people who are passionate about protecting our 2nd Amendment constitutional rights.
Unlike pitbulls, guns do not have the ability to kill or maim in and of themselves. They are a inanimate tool that cannot harm anyone without a human being involved.
The same cannot be said about pits.
I suppose it is possible to conjure up a risk from feral pit bulls. But most have owners who put them in close proximity with other people. Thus there is very much human involvement and the situations are somewhat analogous. Also there are owners who sic their dogs on people.
Naw, I'm a 2nd amendment supporter, too. But there are those that take it to crazy town. You know exactly what I mean. Every group has their fringe element.
Rest assured that some people think anyone who owns a gun is a nut. It sounds like in your case you are talking about the gun owners who think citizens should be allowed to own WMD's.
I certainly know the Founding Fathers intended the 2nd Amendment to be a counter balance to a tyrannical government that could run amok, and trying to shred the Constitution. However the idea that any and all citizens should have WMD's is beyond the pale.
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I suppose it is possible to conjure up a risk from feral pit bulls. But most have owners who put them in close proximity with other people. Thus there is very much human involvement and the situations are somewhat analogous. Also there are owners who sic their dogs on people.
An inanimate object like a gun sitting in the home, cannot get out the door and attack/kill anyone. Canines on the other hand have been known to escape out of homes, fenced in yards, cars, etc.
Unless you were being obtuse, you must have known that is what I meant.
Regardless, guns are controlled by humans, where as a pitbull can attack on it's own. Far too many cases of pitbulls getting loose and mauling people or pets have occurred.
Rest assured that some people think anyone who owns a gun is a nut. It sounds like in your case you are talking about the gun owners who think citizens should be allowed to own WMD's.
I certainly know the Founding Fathers intended the 2nd Amendment to be a counter balance to a tyrannical government that could run amok, and trying to shred the Constitution. However the idea that any and all citizens should have WMD's is beyond the pale.
Any argument that the Founders contemplated allowing violent insurrection against the infant republic is also "beyond the pale."
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An inanimate object like a gun sitting in the home, cannot get out the door and attack/kill anyone.
True but they can be used on impulse. I am not for most gun control but that argument isn't totally accurate.
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Canines on the other hand have been known to escape out of homes, fenced in yards, cars, etc....Regardless, guns are controlled by humans, where as a pitbull can attack on it's own. Far too many cases of pitbulls getting loose and mauling people or pets have occurred.
The most dangerous dogs are so-called gentle breeds such as retrievers, Newfoundlands and Springer Spaniels who go nuts when they're not petted on "request." My childhood Royal Standard Poodle sure did when not petted or his ball wasn't tossed.
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