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Old 04-03-2014, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I am talking about North Carolina specifically, there are about 4.3 million people who voted in 2012 in North Carolina. 35750 shared a name and birthday with one of the 120 million people who voted somewhere else.

35750/4300000 = .0083 Thus for every 1000 people who voted in North Carolina 8 had the same name and birthday as someone who voted in another state. Now do you think that is "thousands of people voting more then once" even though 34985/35750 did not share the last 4 SSN digets.

The fact is this gets brought up a lot and it is almost always all clerical errors.
765 matched name, date of birth and last 4 digits of social.
81 people were dead before the election yet they voted anyway.

 
Old 04-03-2014, 11:59 AM
 
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I'm talking about NC as well...



8 out of every 1000 votes can easily change an election in a state with 4.3 million residents.
So you believe that people who happen to have the same name as another voter in another state shouldn't be allowed to vote? Even though they are different people as evidenced by their SSN numbers.
 
Old 04-03-2014, 11:59 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Originally Posted by Egbert View Post
I am talking about North Carolina specifically, there are about 4.3 million people who voted in 2012 in North Carolina. 35750 shared a name and birthday with one of the 120 million people who voted somewhere else.

35750/4300000 = .0083 Thus for every 1000 people who voted in North Carolina 8 had the same name and birthday as someone who voted in another state. Now do you think that is "thousands of people voting more then once" even though 34985/35750 did not share the last 4 SSN digets.

The fact is this gets brought up a lot and it is almost always all clerical errors.
How many fraudulent votes do you consider permissible? Is it 8 for every 1000? Would 9 be too many?
or 100?

What nonsense. Voter fraud is fraud. Period.
 
Old 04-03-2014, 11:59 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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Oh, please.

And if I say that no one wants murders to happen, you're going to come back and say, "That's untrue, because murders do happen, we know people get murdered everyday..." Blah, blah, blah. Yes, Virginia, there are criminals in the world, and crime does happen.

I would point out that voter suppression is actually more egregious than voter fraud. Because it is more effective at changing the outcome of an election, and because it denies people their rights. We have a history in this country of voter suppression, of using voter ID laws, poll taxes, and other tests, to deny people their right to vote. And we don't have a history of widespread voter fraud that ever changed the outcome of an election. And yet, somehow, conservatives have been bamboozled into thinking that voter ID laws needed to solve a non-existent problem.
We don't have a history of widespread voter fraud in this country because Democrats have made it almost impossible to prove and when it is proven they attack the person making the claims as a racist.
 
Old 04-03-2014, 12:00 PM
 
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I'm talking about NC as well...



8 out of every 1000 votes can easily change an election in a state with 4.3 million residents.
If they are coordinated in a way to change the outcome of the election. Are you alleging a conspiracy among all these fraudulent voters?
 
Old 04-03-2014, 12:00 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Egbert View Post
I am talking about North Carolina specifically, there are about 4.3 million people who voted in 2012 in North Carolina. 35750 shared a name and birthday with one of the 120 million people who voted somewhere else.

35750/4300000 = .0083 Thus for every 1000 people who voted in North Carolina 8 had the same name and birthday as someone who voted in another state. Now do you think that is "thousands of people voting more then once" even though 34985/35750 did not share the last 4 SSN digets.

The fact is this gets brought up a lot and it is almost always all clerical errors.
Assuming the OP is correct, which he isn't. How would THOUSANDS of people voted in different states? Even if they didn't do it in person, which is an impossibility, it would be logistically impossible to even coordinate a way for others to assume the identity of those out of state voters. Voters, that by the way are somehow registered in more than one state.

This problem comes from states doing a terrible job of keeping their voting registration records up to date, not any actual voter fraud.
 
Old 04-03-2014, 12:00 PM
 
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So you believe that people who happen to have the same name as another voter in another state shouldn't be allowed to vote? Even though they are different people as evidenced by their SSN numbers.
I believe you should learn to read.

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I believe that if you share a name, birthday and SSN and you are voting in 2 states someone should check into case to figure out what's going on. Do you know what the odds are of finding people in 2 different states with the exact same name and birthday a couple thousand times and it NOT being the same person?

Don't be stupid, there is plenty enough proof in this story alone to warrant an investigation and anyone who claims there isn't is simply lying for political gain.
 
Old 04-03-2014, 12:00 PM
 
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765 matched name, date of birth and last 4 digits of social.
81 people were dead before the election yet they voted anyway.
and it will probably be shown that those are either legitimate flukes or clerical errors. Of those 81 people who were dead before election day 30 of them likely early voted and died between early voting and the election which is not unheard of, nor illegal, the rest are likely clerical errors as the article says.
 
Old 04-03-2014, 12:01 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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765 matched name, date of birth and last 4 digits of social.
81 people were dead before the election yet they voted anyway.
Oh yes...the dead. I forgot about the dead. Musn't ever forget the dead. They prove the resurrection every voting day.

 
Old 04-03-2014, 12:01 PM
 
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We don't have a history of widespread voter fraud in this country because Democrats have made it almost impossible to prove and when it is proven they attack the person making the claims as a racist.
Down the conspiracy hole you go, little rabbit.
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