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What the warmers continually or conveniently forget is that it stopped warming 17 years ago. The climate always changes , it is only theory that man is causing it, not fact.
As a result their cries become more strident and shrill.
What the warmers continually or conveniently forget is that it stopped warming 17 years ago. The climate always changes , it is only theory that man is causing it, not fact.
As a result their cries become more strident and shrill.
the armers also forget that this interglacial period is cooler than the last eight and by a substantial margin. thus they claim man is driving this round of warming, but they cant prove it, and they are getting called on it more and more, and thus they get more and more shrill.
No matter what we do the Earth and most humans will survive a changed climate. Our societies and economies as we know them may not.
i can agree with that. chances are also that many technologies are going to have to change as well one way or another, including farming. farmers may have to become proficient in hydroponics in order to continue to feed the world.
So the globals expect us to believe that a change of 1 part in 100,000 in the last 250 years is going to plunge the earth into some sort of climatic destruction. Just utter insanity.
You see, this is where it becomes impossible to have any sort of a real debate.
We've seen numerous examples in the news, of the corruption or misrepresentation of the raw data that goes into peer reviewed academic articles by climate scientists and we've seen examples of politics, dogma, corruption and activism creeping into science itself.
Now you may choose to ignore that or choose to believe that it's some sort of fabrication. Skeptics don't.
Instead you just plug your ears and keep repeating "peer reviewed reports by climate scientists" like a mantra and take it on BLIND FAITH that if a climate scientist said so in a peer reviewed article, it MUST be true.
It doesn't have to be some huge, backroom, evil conspiracy but if you think that politics, activism, dogma and greed have not crept into and thus contaminated modern science, you are truly naive.
To put it another way, if you truly think that completely blind, impartial science with no prejudice towards any particular outcome is being conducted, again, you are truly naive!
They have their minds made up and won't be distracted by anything that doesn't reinforce what they have concluded to be true.
Me, when I see the projected warming that was predicted years ago by the CAGW crowd with such absolute certainty fail to materialize, I have to question what is really going on here.
When they come out with GHCN v3.2.0 to "correct past inaccuracies" and temperatures from decades past are now colder meaning they can still run the "warmer than..." story, I have to call bull ****!
i can agree with that. chances are also that many technologies are going to have to change as well one way or another, including farming. farmers may have to become proficient in hydroponics in order to continue to feed the world.
Nature has a way of self correcting excess, whatever that excess may be. For example, in his book What To Expect When No One Is Expecting, Jonathan Last talks about the boring topics of demographics and birthrates, but predicts that worldwide human population is on the verge of a very long decline. The idea of fewer people in the long term should thrill the AGW crowd. Yet they cant wait. They have to make certain that whomever is left has no civilization upon which to fall back.
The AGW crowd has the unfortunate advantage of having captured the imaginations of the liberal media, the liberal academics, and the liberal politicians, thus creating a perfect storm for an hysteria with no scientific basis.
After all, when you hear "global warming" on every newscast, in every newspaper or blog site, in every conversation, when practically everyone you talk to attributes anything they perceive as "weird weather" to global warming, well then global warming has become the coin of trade.
What amazes me is how quickly the term "climate change" has become code for global warming. Again, the press, academia, politicians. We live in such a media driven world, dont we...
I didn't see cloud cover mentioned even though we know that in the last 40 years cirrus clouds have increased by about 1% and cumulus clouds have decreased by about 1%, and no mention of water vapor even though it is the most significant greenhouse gas.
That is a great question chad....They trust science for past climate change, but think current change is some world wide conspiracy...Bizarre.
Here is a question for the deniers....Who knows most about the climate? a) Climate scientists, b) Economists, c) Oil companies, d) Michele Bachmann?
Are you able to understand the difference between examining the past and speculating about the future?
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