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Women make 77 cents on the dollar for the following reasons:
- They make up a small percentage of STEM majors. STEM grads make the most money.
- There are high paying jobs that they cannot or will not do (utility line worker, iron worker, electrician, plumber, UPS driver, machinist, welder, fork lift operator etc.). In medicine, surgeons, who make the most money, are overwhelmingly men.
- They take more time off for work for child rearing.
So please stop the nonsense. Employers want the best employees, irrespective of their race or gender. An employer would hire a good female electrician (or the other jobs listed above) if they were available. But they're not. And it's not the employer's fault.
Yep.
Do those who keep repeating "women make less than men" and ignoring why have a plan that will somehow erase the why?
In the blue collar realm alone, underwater welding and oil rig work are probably enough to appreciably bump men's average pay up over women.
In medicine, orthopedic surgeons make top pay, triple what some female pediatrician makes.
And every 3 month maternity leave taken off does some damage to a career. There is a tradeoff to any decision made. It isn't discrimination.
Actually it is the fact that many of them do spend a few years "in the kitchen" and changing diapers that explains much of the wage gap.
Yep. While the women left the job on maternity leave, their male peers remained and got the promotions and increased pay that comes from actually WORKING.
There is verifiable proof that women get paid less than men. That isn't up for debate. We KNOW that this happens.
"There is verifiable proof"
Good, then verify it, job for job. If you KNOW of it happening, which I don't doubt in very small numbers, I ALSO know of women getting paid more then men, report it because it is already against the law.
People that support discrimination rarely favor increasing exposure and ability to adjudicate abuse of the Laws, which is what the Paycheck Fairness Act is about.
Secondly, this bill and Democrats continue to vaguely emphasize equal pay for equal work which is WRONG. Do you not understand the factors that go into paying people? If a man and a woman are performing equal work, but the man has a masters degree, the man should make more based on his masters degree. PERIOD. If the woman has the masters, then she should make more. PERIOD.
I agree with everything you said, except this. A Masters vs no Masters may be a deciding factor in who gets offered a job. Theoretically, the job candidate with a Masters may have more knowledge than the non-Masters candidate. But once employed, a piece of paper from the past that proves nothing more than you could afford the tuition and were stubborn enough to sit through lectures and perform unpaid research is completely worthless in the real world.
I work in the engineering field, and yes, I do have my Master's degree. So this is NOT paper-envy on my part. But I've worked with non-masters engineers who could work circles around both Masters and PhD engineers.
People that support discrimination rarely favor increasing exposure and ability to adjudicate abuse of the Laws, which is what the Paycheck Fairness Act is about.
This law is not about anything except vote pandering in an election year that increasingly desperate and frightened Democrats are finding anything they can to change the subject away from the many failures of Obama's progressivism writ large.
Occam's Razor should be your guide here, and all the points needed for a proper conclusion have already been mentioned in other posts, but let's summarize to see if we can make the simplest answer kinda jump on out, eh?
Business exists for the purpose of making profit for the owners.
Labor is one of, if not the largest components of cost.
Profit is revenue minus taxes+cost.
Therefore, if women made 77 cents for every dollar a man earns, it makes no business sense whatsoever to hire men to do anything, given the massive boost to profit an all female workforce working for 3/4 wages would create.
Forget all the biological/sociological factors between the two genders in the workplace, like more time off for children for women than men, larger gaps in employment for women, fewer STEM degrees for women, and fewer salaried "work 60-80 hours a week without getting paid overtime" jobs held by women than by men (since women value quality of life more than men, which is sad commentary on men in the workplace), etc. All that is additional flavor to the simple fact that if business really could and did get away with paying women 3/4 of what they pay men, why ever hire a man at full price when you can get equal skill, knowledge, experience, and education for 25% off?
I swear by all that is good and pure in this world that the near total lack of critical thinking in this nation will be the harbinger of our extinction.
This law is not about anything except vote pandering in an election year that increasingly desperate and frightened Democrats are finding anything they can to change the subject away from the many failures of Obama's progressivism writ large.
Occam's Razor should be your guide here, and all the points needed for a proper conclusion have already been mentioned in other posts, but let's summarize to see if we can make the simplest answer kinda jump on out, eh?
Business exists for the purpose of making profit for the owners.
Labor is one of, if not the largest components of cost.
Profit is revenue minus taxes+cost.
Therefore, if women made 77 cents for every dollar a man earns, it makes no business sense whatsoever to hire men to do anything, given the massive boost to profit an all female workforce working for 3/4 wages would create.
Forget all the biological/sociological factors between the two genders in the workplace, like more time off for children for women than men, larger gaps in employment for women, fewer STEM degrees for women, and fewer salaried "work 60-80 hours a week without getting paid overtime" jobs held by women than by men (since women value quality of life more than men, which is sad commentary on men in the workplace), etc. All that is additional flavor to the simple fact that if business really could and did get away with paying women 3/4 of what they pay men, why ever hire a man at full price when you can get equal skill, knowledge, experience, and education for 25% off?
I swear by all that is good and pure in this world that the near total lack of critical thinking in this nation will be the harbinger of our extinction.
Exactly. The elephant in the room as I see it as well.
Exactly. The elephant in the room as I see it as well.
Well let's pile on to it....
Women are a protected class according to EEOC/Affirmative Action/court_of_public_opinion/mainstream media/popular conception/21st_century_mythology. Right?
OK, not only can you decrease your wage cost by 23% right off the bat for every woman you hire in place of a man, but an all female workforce will keep you in the good graces of every politically correct paramilitary organization in the country, and likely generate massive goodwill. Since no men are there to compare salaries with, and you can always claim local market fluctuations on wage cost (since, as Mircea points out daily, there are like 1600 separate economies in the US), then it's win-win-win no matter what direction you turn where the all-female, 25% off wage cost employment model is concerned.
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