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Old 04-13-2014, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Here you go. I'm making the exact same hourly wage as a man in my position. That being said, my total yearly earnings are less because I work less. I worked a lot less when my son was small.

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Are you private sector or public sector ?
If private sector your wages are publicly posted like public sector ?
Your raises are all the same amount like public sector ?
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:11 PM
 
Location: CA
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If women are paid less for the same work, then one would think the working world would be full of women.
Dittos!! I know!! what 'evil' corporation wouldn't 'save' money this way!?!
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:12 PM
 
Location: OKC
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The simplistic accounting that led to "women make 77% of what men make" shouldn't be used by anyone that takes themselves seriously. Even Obama wouldn't use that kind of accounting to justify salaries in his office.

Lots of studies have been done on this, and a meta-analysis by the BLS come to the conclusion that:
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This study leads to the unambiguous conclusion that the differences in the compensation of men and women are the result of a multitude of factors and that the raw wage gap should not be used as the basis to justify corrective action. Indeed, there may be nothing to correct. The differences in raw wages may be almost entirely the result of the individual choices being made by both male and female workers.
http://www.consad.com/content/report...l%20Report.pdf


Maybe Obama is anti-science, since he doesn't believe in these studies.
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Are you private sector or public sector ?
If private sector your wages are publicly posted like public sector ?
Your raises are all the same amount like public sector ?
I`m a nurse, so public sector.
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I`m a nurse, so public sector.
Public sector here pays the same way.
Public sector has a complete different pay/raise setup than private sector and they are not made public.
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Old 04-13-2014, 07:51 PM
 
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Either way, you going to school longer does not mean you deserve more money.
Actually, it DOES mean that if the employer believes that it does.
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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I haven't read the bill so I guess we'll have to get it passed to find out what's in it.
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Old 04-13-2014, 10:13 PM
 
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This law makes no sense. Women get paid the same as men and no laws are needed. The evil capitalists have taken care of this "problem".

The myth that women don't get paid as much means women are so stupid they will work for less. President Obama thinks women are stupid.
There is verifiable proof that women get paid less than men. That isn't up for debate. We KNOW that this happens.
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Old 04-13-2014, 10:22 PM
 
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Human Resources has become a field that is dominated by women. HR knows who is getting paid what. So are you telling me that all these women who run HR departments are part of the diabolical plan to pay women less?

This bill, on so many levels that I cannot go into now, is just a big bunch of BS that allows the Democrats to say that the Republicans are waging a "War on Women." Not the Republicans are always so wonderful, but the Democrats really have no scruples.

And if this bill ever passed, we would have to open dozens of new law schools to mint the thousands and thousands of new lawyers who would be handling the tens of thousands of mostly bogus discrimination cases filed every year. "That guy is making more than me. Must because I'm a woman. I'm suing!"

What a disgrace.
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Old 04-13-2014, 10:29 PM
 
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There is verifiable proof that women get paid less than men. That isn't up for debate. We KNOW that this happens.
How ridiculous. If employers could hire women for 77 cents on the dollar that men get paid, the unemployment rate for women be next to zero, and the unemployment rate would be double digits for men, correct? Why hire men if you can get women cheap? But unemployment rates for men and women are similar.

Women make 77 cents on the dollar for the following reasons:

- They make up a small percentage of STEM majors. STEM grads make the most money.

- There are high paying jobs that they cannot or will not do (utility line worker, iron worker, electrician, plumber, UPS driver, machinist, welder, fork lift operator etc.). In medicine, surgeons, who make the most money, are overwhelmingly men.

- They take more time off for work for child rearing.

So please stop the nonsense. Employers want the best employees, irrespective of their race or gender. An employer would hire a good female electrician (or the other jobs listed above) if they were available. But they're not. And it's not the employer's fault.
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