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When has gvt estimates ever been right on social program spending this was covered in another thread where gvt estimated the cost but missed by a mile and the cost was way more. Some people are so gullible and so far posters can not explain how Obamacare is going to be paid for.
When has gvt estimates ever been right on social program spending this was covered in another thread where gvt estimated the cost but missed by a mile and the cost was way more. Some people are so gullible and so far posters can not explain how Obamacare is going to be paid for.
Exactly, the original estimates were that ACA would generate $1T in additional revenues over the next decade.. Now the estimates are so far off, that they are hoping to get tens of billions a year..
And all of this of course, simply means the government is removing money from the economy by way of taxes, and these kooks call that a success..
"CBO and JCT estimate that the added costs to the fed- eral government for Medicaid and CHIP attributable to the ACA will be $20 billion in 2014 "
Going to be extremely hard to believe the ACA will only cost tax payers 36 billion this year when the cbo report say Medicaid expansion alone will cost 20 billion.
This is why people have to read the entire report for exclusions.
Just to add. The cbo isn't even sure how long insurers can keep prices low. They say it's not sustainable. There is a lot to read. It will take about 20-30 minutes to sniff out the data.
Yeah it is such a horrible report for the ACA. More uninsured Americans than originally estimated this year will gain insurance and the law is cheaper this year than originally projected.
But ignore those positive numbers because in the future, in the future it will be a disaster.
Yeah it is such a horrible report for the ACA. More uninsured Americans than originally estimated this year will gain insurance and the law is cheaper this year than originally projected.
But ignore those positive numbers because in the future, in the future it will be a disaster.
Ummm, the article clearly states that the percentage of people insured will rise from 80% to 89% over the years. Therefore the uninsured rate will drop from 20% to 11%.
Just exactly how much crap and disruption are we going through so that LESS THAN HALF of the uninsured ultimately end up with coverage? Way to go Obamacare, you are going to cover 45% of the uninsured.
In most places, 45% is a fail.
Not to mention that some people with ObamaCrap policies will not be able to afford the high deductibles and coinsurance and will still not actually obtain health care.
The latest trick I found out about was that although we know the out of pocket limits per year are $6,300 per person and $12,700 per family, the $6300 only applies to single insureds on their own policy. A person on a family policy pays $12,700 out of pocket if they are the only one with a claim in the family. "$6,300 per person" turns out to be one more lie.
Ummm, the article clearly states that the percentage of people insured will rise from 80% to 89% over the years. Therefore the uninsured rate will drop from 20% to 11%.
Just exactly how much crap and disruption are we going through so that LESS THAN HALF of the uninsured ultimately end up with coverage? Way to go Obamacare, you are going to cover 45% of the uninsured.
In most places, 45% is a fail.
Not to mention that some people with ObamaCrap policies will not be able to afford the high deductibles and coinsurance and will still not actually obtain health care.
The latest trick I found out about was that although we know the out of pocket limits per year are $6,300 per person and $12,700 per family, the $6300 only applies to single insureds on their own policy. A person on a family policy pays $12,700 out of pocket if they are the only one with a claim in the family. "$6,300 per person" turns out to be one more lie.
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First off included in that uninsured count are people that conservatives don't want to get insurance.
The CBO estimates that by 2024 with the ACA 31million people will be without insurance and that 26million of the uninsured will be insured.
Of those uninsured the CBO thinks 30% of them will be undocumented immigrants a group of people that conservatives fought hard to exclude from the ACA which they are excluded.
So conservatives can't count those undocumented immigrants being uninsured unless they want to blame themselves. So that removes 9,300,000 from that 31million.
Also the CBO estimates that 5% of the uninsured will be people who live in states that didn't expand medicaid. Which is 100% the fault of conservatives in those states, so conservatives can't count those people as uninsured unless they want to blame themselves. So that removes another 1,550,000 from the uninsured.
This leaves 20,150,000 people uninsured and the 26million gaining insurance based on the CBO estimates that conservatives can count. Yet it is not that the law won't cover those Americans, the CBO estimates that these people will choose not to gain insurance through the exchanges or employers or Medicaid.
Yeah it is such a horrible report for the ACA. More uninsured Americans than originally estimated this year will gain insurance and the law is cheaper this year than originally projected.
But ignore those positive numbers because in the future, in the future it will be a disaster.
You mean less people lost insurance than previously expected because the mandates have been delayed?
First off included in that uninsured count are people that conservatives don't want to get insurance.
The CBO estimates that by 2024 with the ACA 31million people will be without insurance and that 26million of the uninsured will be insured.
um, no.. The CBO estimates that 30 million will be without insurance by 2024, and we started with 30 million uninsured.
There will be more insured, and despite your non stop talking about babbling hate that conservatives dont want people to have insurance, its because OTHERS ARE PAYING FOR IT..
In a follow-up report to its February report, the CBO said it expects coverage provisions of Obamacare to cost $36 billion for fiscal 2014, $5 billion less than previously expected. For the years 2015 to 2024, the CBO said it expects the program to cost a cumulative $1.383 trillion, $104 billion less than expected.
In other words, the deficit the OP calims to "cut", is the deficit that was raised sky-high by Obamacare in the first place.
Instead of the program costing $1.487 trillion, the CBO now says it will cost $1.383 trillion instead.
And the liberal fanatics are desperately trying to pretend that a program that heaped an additional $1.383 on the already staggering U.S. deficits, is somehow "cutting" a deficit somewhere.
The degree to which these people lie and fake their "facts" is astounding sometimes.
You all don't read for comprehension. Here is why.
First off included in that uninsured count are people that conservatives don't want to get insurance.
The CBO estimates that by 2024 with the ACA 31million people will be without insurance and that 26million of the uninsured will be insured.
Of those uninsured the CBO thinks 30% of them will be undocumented immigrants a group of people that conservatives fought hard to exclude from the ACA which they are excluded.
So conservatives can't count those undocumented immigrants being uninsured unless they want to blame themselves. So that removes 9,300,000 from that 31million.
Also the CBO estimates that 5% of the uninsured will be people who live in states that didn't expand medicaid. Which is 100% the fault of conservatives in those states, so conservatives can't count those people as uninsured unless they want to blame themselves. So that removes another 1,550,000 from the uninsured.
This leaves 20,150,000 people uninsured and the 26million gaining insurance based on the CBO estimates that conservatives can count. Yet it is not that the law won't cover those Americans, the CBO estimates that these people will choose not to gain insurance through the exchanges or employers or Medicaid.
You are just making crap up as you go along, because your calculations completely ignore the population growth, and it was Obama who ran around the country telling everyone that the illegals wouldnt be covered, not Republicans.
As for the numbers who didnt expand medicaid, all you had to do was expand medicaid to get the dam people insurance. You didnt need to screw a large segment of the public..
But you are applauding the stupidity like its some vast accomplishment to expand people on wefare.
I prefer people to have the funds to have the ability to pay for it, while you applaud people being poor.. Weird.
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this was covered in another thread where gvt estimated the cost but missed by a mile and the cost was way more. Some people are so gullible and so far posters can not explain how Obamacare is going to be paid for.
