5 cops caught in lies on witness stand

[ContrarianEcon]

Originally Posted by ted08721

Every time a cop threw a girl to the ground during Occupy the cops would charge them with assaulting a police officer.

Yep. and proving that you were innocent was hard. The assumption under the constitution was innocent until proven guilty. Mark Fuhrman he was caught cold lying under oath. The law as practiced is moving towards guilty until proven innocent.

In a lot of places you can't video tape a cop as they do their job. That makes it far easier to convict them of lying.

[Gtownoe]

I personally have a friend that was maliciously charged (they charged him with felony resisting arrest). If it wasn't for video evidence he could still be sitting in jail.


Police are notorious for lying. I've personally dealt with the devils. We need many more precautions against the Police.

[GuyNTexas]

Originally Posted by chuckmann

Among other things, my wife, a wonderful woman but a scary attorney, has worked both the district attorney side and the public defender side of the law. She absolutely is convinced that most cops lie on the stand.

If that were true, the question is why? Thin Blue Line? Personal ass covering? A sense of superiority?

Someone wiser than I has put it this way - in the war against tyranny, the camera is the next gun.

Few people understand the system fully ... even those within the system. As is the age old reality, it's all about the money, so cops lying on the stand is both common, and part of a system that the end goal is all that matters to the participants. On the defense side, the goal is to acquit, and on the prosecution side, convict. Allof the participants on the prosecution side work for that conviction, and not only do LE lie, but prosecutors often withhold information damaging to their cases (helpful to the defense).

One would ideally have a system that is totally impartial and unbiased, but there is money involved, and when money is involved, impartiality disappears.

Judges are corrupt ... prosecutors are corrupt ... police are corrupt, because all of them profit from criminal and civil prosecutions, and owe their livelihoods to it.

Prisons are in many cases private for profit institutions who profit only from convictions of defendants. Bail bonds are negotiable financial instruments which are a revenue source themselves. And everyone from the judges and clerks to the administrative people, the attorneys on both sides, all profit from the system of "justice" which might be better named "just-us", because that is where most of the concern lies ... in self interests, not unlike any other profession.

This case, and the feigned outrage of the judge over police lying on the stand, I find a bit disingenuous unless the judge just fell off the back of the cabbage truck. I think it more likely that the judge was annoyed that LE bungled the job so badly as to preclude the success of the original goal of conviction ... not because they lied.