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Old 04-20-2014, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Houston
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It's a start!
No, it is not.

Think preventive medicine will save money? Think again | Reuters

 
Old 04-20-2014, 11:49 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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In that it's done something, it's a start. Now the need is to refine and make it really work without shoving it down peoples' throats, "threatening/punishing" them and picking their pockets.
 
Old 04-20-2014, 11:51 AM
 
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I believe a properly run national hc policy will be the only reasonable chance to get the costs under control. If you Google "what are the worlds most free economies" take a look at which of the top countries on the list have a national hc system.
 
Old 04-20-2014, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Houston
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In that it's done something, it's a start. Now the need is to refine and make it really work without shoving it down peoples' throats, "threatening/punishing" them and picking their pockets.
Yea...like that is going to happen.
 
Old 04-20-2014, 11:53 AM
 
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Here I did it for you

Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom
 
Old 04-20-2014, 12:00 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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The true bang is a long term investment, where access to preventative medicine means lower cost of healthcare for the entire population. Preventative medicine, like in case of removing suspicious cyst on ones skin as compared to the cost of full blown chemotherapy later on.
We ALL pay for the cost of inadequate preventative healthcare and that's why ACA if not perfect is definetely a step in good direction.
Since health care is expensive due to Government regulation & corporate cronyism, why not eliminate that aspect instead of increasing it? A pill that costs $.05 in Pakistan, costs $0.10 in India, costs $0.25 in Panama, costs $0.50 in Costa Rica, costs $5.00 in Canada & costs $20.00 in the US. Why not just let consumers buy the pills from Pakistan for $0.05 & then they wouldn't need insurance? What Government regulation has done is give virtual monopolies to their favorite pharma corporations, allow big pharma execs to write the laws (literally) & pass laws making it illegal to buy our meds outside of the US. When we allow the Government to "regulate" like this, what always happens is collusion with the corporations against the people. Always.
 
Old 04-20-2014, 12:01 PM
 
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Check the chart -International comparison

Health system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Old 04-20-2014, 12:16 PM
 
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Since health care is expensive due to Government regulation & corporate cronyism, why not eliminate that aspect instead of increasing it? A pill that costs $.05 in Pakistan, costs $0.10 in India, costs $0.25 in Panama, costs $0.50 in Costa Rica, costs $5.00 in Canada & costs $20.00 in the US. Why not just let consumers buy the pills from Pakistan for $0.05 & then they wouldn't need insurance? What Government regulation has done is give virtual monopolies to their favorite pharma corporations, allow big pharma execs to write the laws (literally) & pass laws making it illegal to buy our meds outside of the US. When we allow the Government to "regulate" like this, what always happens is collusion with the corporations against the people. Always.
These foreign drug discounts mean less regulation and potential public harm. But I would think that there should be a way to compromise and save us some dough.
 
Old 04-20-2014, 12:18 PM
 
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Reuters against World Health Organisation?
Sorry, I'd rather believe the doctors than journalists.

The cost of removing a suspicious cyst on one's skin versus the cost chemotherapy in the later stage of cancer. Preventative care saves money.



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Old 04-20-2014, 12:19 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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These foreign drug discounts mean less regulation and potential public harm. But I would think that there should be a way to compromise and save us some dough.
What's the difference between a Pfizer pill made in a Pfizer factory in the United States or a Pfizer pill made in a Pfizer factory in India? Same patent, same company, fraction of the cost.
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