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Old 04-22-2014, 07:21 AM
 
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Says who? I suppose ending the careers of the horses and sending them to the glue factory is more humane.
This is more animals over people nonsense and you can be deblasio has a connection ($) to the electric car concerns he is looking to replace the carriages with.
Urbanlife just believes any talking point from the extreme left. No evidence to back it up at all.

No to mention the idiot mayor of New York never mentions the treatment of police horses.
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:23 AM
 
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This entire thing is over a land deal DeBlasio's biggest doner wants. The land where the stables are is of great value, that's what this is ALL about.
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:23 AM
 
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This entire thing is over a land deal DeBlasio's biggest doner wants. The land where the stables are is of great value, that's what this is ALL about.
Do you have evidence of this?
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:30 AM
 
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Says who? I suppose ending the careers of the horses and sending them to the glue factory is more humane.
This is more animals over people nonsense and I wouldn't be surprised if deblasio has a connection ($) to the electric car concerns he is looking to replace the carriages with.

And there it is.... Deblasio doesn't really care about the horses, as opposed to lining his pockets.
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:30 AM
 
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Robert Stacy McCain writes in The American Spectator:
The bad guy in this drama, according to the carriage drivers, is Steve Nislick, chief executive officer of a New Jersey-based real-estate development company, Edison Properties. The company "employs legions of lobbyists to influence city decisions on real estate and zoning in its favor," journalist Michael Gross reported in 2009, pointing out that two of Edison's businesses "have multiple locations in the same Far West Midtown neighborhood as the stables where the Central Park horses are housed." An anti-carriage pamphlet Nislick circulated in 2008 made this interesting observation: "Currently, the stables consist of 64,000 square feet of valuable real estate on lots that could accomodate up to 150,000 square feet of development. These lots could be sold for new development."
Gross asked the obvious question: "What are the odds that good neighbor Nislick, the out-of-state real estate developer, simply covets those valuable, underdeveloped New York lots -- and has teamed up with ambitious pols to use the emotions of animal rights activists as fuel for their own agendas?" Nislick founded a 501(c)4 group called New Yorkers for Clean, Livable and Safe Streets (NYCLASS) that spent big money to elect de Blasio mayor


De Blasio's Horse-Drawn Carriage Ban | The American Spectator
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:34 AM
 
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New Yorkers Take Last Ride on Carriage Horses Before DeBlasio Ban | FrontPage Magazine

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Old 04-22-2014, 07:36 AM
 
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This might be one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Horses love what they do, they live for it. Just try leaving one of them in the stall someday when the carriage goes out and see what happens.

A horse that pulls a carriage, is well cared for is the happiest horse in the world. What does this idiot want to do, free them on the western plains? Then they could die of disease and starvation.
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:58 AM
 
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I just worry that the horses might be eating polluted grass or something during waiting periods, but city horses seem pretty trained.
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Old 04-22-2014, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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This might be one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Horses love what they do, they live for it. Just try leaving one of them in the stall someday when the carriage goes out and see what happens.

A horse that pulls a carriage, is well cared for is the happiest horse in the world. What does this idiot want to do, free them on the western plains? Then they could die of disease and starvation.
I don't mind if they did horse drawn carriages, but keep them only in Central Park, and they need operation rules to prevent them from working during the hottest summer days which increases the chances a horse will die from heat exhaustion.
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Old 04-22-2014, 08:08 AM
 
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I don't mind if they did horse drawn carriages, but keep them only in Central Park, and they need operation rules to prevent them from working during the hottest summer days which increases the chances a horse will die from heat exhaustion.
Someone should be held accountable for that scenario for sure. Horses are a valuable animal so I would think that alone should motivate the operators to protect them from that.

You're right, maybe a few more rules like not operating in bad heat and humidity makes sense.
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