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This is up again? We had a thread about this some months back. Same old arguments. Fact is, not all horses are being treated humanely. I'm not going to look for that thread, if you really want to see the facts, go look through the archives. I already did the work to provide evidence that there's enough of them NOT being treated humanely that it caused this to be a potential ban.
This is up again? We had a thread about this some months back. Same old arguments. Fact is, not all horses are being treated humanely. I'm not going to look for that thread, if you really want to see the facts, go look through the archives. I already did the work to provide evidence that there's enough of them NOT being treated humanely that it caused this to be a potential ban.
And their next stop likely would be a one way trip to the killer pens.
People, think about it, for a moment, how long do you think horse drawn carriages have been in NYC....we also have them in Philly?
anyway, there were times over my 65 years, that they shut down the owners of horses that were cruel to their horses....
This is a ploy by the people who want to fight for a cause they know nothing about....and started probably by those people who own electric tour cars....they want to do away with the carriages....
Liam Neeson has been fighting for the cause of the carriages....and most of those activists don't know what they are doing....if they really sincerely cared about animals, they would be doing something constructive, like protesting puppy mills and getting them shut down....
Most of those activists don't even know about horses....or have ridden or owned horses.
Some of these activists are nut cases....not all, but some, who take things way beyond the norm.
I suggest, firmly before fighting for a cause you read and examine both sides of the cause before judging.....as things are not always as they seem.
I have ridden the carriages in both NYC and Philly, and have owned my own horses, my relatives showed horses professionally, and trained horses, and let me tell you, the city would shut them down very quickly if they didn't take care of those animals...why? Because they represent the city...and there have been a few cases over the years, which did make the news, and were shut down. So this mayor is blowin smoke out his arse, to pay his debt.
I really really wish these stupid activists knew half the time what they were talking about, I'm sorry but I have no tolerance for these people. Some of them are sick.
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It is legal to race a horse on bute if you declare it.
What other drugs would be a problem??
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Originally Posted by Driller1
Lasix is used at the track by the ring master to make the horses pee for the drug test.
Harness horses can race on bute......if it is declared.
lasiz is also used to stop bleeding. you asked what other drugs could be a problem. I listed some, does the use of banned drugs bother you in horse sport? it is a huge problem in most equine disciplines. I am not worried at all when a horse is given bute, like I said it is equivalent to human aspirin
lasiz is also used to stop bleeding. you asked what other drugs could be a problem. I listed some, does the use of banned drugs bother you in horse sport? it is a huge problem in most equine disciplines. I am not worried at all when a horse is given bute, like I said it is equivalent to human aspirin
Can you post a link where Lasix will stop bleeding??
I know drugs can be a problem.
Other than bute (not much more than aspirin)I just don't see what other drugs would be used much with carriage horses.
To slow them down letting blood would get them by any drug test.
Robert Stacy McCain writes in The American Spectator:
The bad guy in this drama, according to the carriage drivers, is Steve Nislick, chief executive officer of a New Jersey-based real-estate development company, Edison Properties. The company "employs legions of lobbyists to influence city decisions on real estate and zoning in its favor," journalist Michael Gross reported in 2009, pointing out that two of Edison's businesses "have multiple locations in the same Far West Midtown neighborhood as the stables where the Central Park horses are housed." An anti-carriage pamphlet Nislick circulated in 2008 made this interesting observation: "Currently, the stables consist of 64,000 square feet of valuable real estate on lots that could accomodate up to 150,000 square feet of development. These lots could be sold for new development."
Gross asked the obvious question: "What are the odds that good neighbor Nislick, the out-of-state real estate developer, simply covets those valuable, underdeveloped New York lots -- and has teamed up with ambitious pols to use the emotions of animal rights activists as fuel for their own agendas?" Nislick founded a 501(c)4 group called New Yorkers for Clean, Livable and Safe Streets (NYCLASS) that spent big money to elect de Blasio mayor
Can you post a link where Lasix will stop bleeding??
I know drugs can be a problem.
Other than bute (not much more than aspirin)I just don't see what other drugs would be used much with carriage horses.
To slow them down letting blood would get them by any drug test.
lasix is used in horse racing is what I thought we were posting about, which there are plenty of articles on google about it in that industry. I would suspect a carriage horse owner could use a number of drugs on their animal to mask lameness or other issues. it is not uncommon for people who are in the business for money rather than the love of an animal to use drugs so they might continue to work their animal. this is the reason why more enforcement is needed.
lasix is used in horse racing is what I thought we were posting about, which there are plenty of articles on google about it in that industry. I would suspect a carriage horse owner could use a number of drugs on their animal to mask lameness or other issues. it is not uncommon for people who are in the business for money rather than the love of an animal to use drugs so they might continue to work their animal. this is the reason why more enforcement is needed.
Well if heat is an issue for them perhaps they can accomadate the horses and not operate on certain days in the summer.
They do.
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