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Old 04-22-2014, 02:38 PM
 
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They had to go back to a comment made ten years ago? "First Lady Hillary Clinton decorated the White House Christmas Tree with crack pipes and condoms." So a group cannot be critical of a person who is not even an elected politician?

Apparently you lose your individual right to free speech in all things, if you are in a tax exempt organization. So the guy is not a person anymore, not allowed to voice his opinion as an individual, if he is a member of a tax exempt group?
We wouldnt want anyone to be bad mouthing Hillary going into her presidential bid...
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:39 PM
 
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Excuses?

WHAT part of "Under the tax code, it's illegal for a charity to engage in electoral politics" causes such difficulty for you? Or is it just the self-Righteous consider themselves above the law when it suits their agenda?
What do you have to say about these folks?

The political arm of Planned Parenthood doesn't rise to your level of disgust? Why not? Hypocrisy?

http://www.plannedparenthoodaction.o...ions-politics/
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:39 PM
 
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That's all well and good, but has nothing to do with the fact that the rules still stand and any organization willing to involve itself in politics/policy/campaigning needs to do so under a separate filing status with separate funding channels.
But thats not true.. Only certain groups need to do so under seperate filing statutus...

Hence the Planned Parenthood Action Committee, which isnt being bothered.
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:41 PM
 
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Yeah funny how all of that was found not to be true.

The tea bag groups should never have been granted tax exempt status when they admitted to being political organizations and not charities. That is the real scandal that they were approved for tax exempt status.

What do you have to say about these folks? Are you a hypocrite?

Elections & Politics - Planned Parenthood Action Center
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:43 PM
 
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That's all well and good, but has nothing to do with the fact that the rules still stand and any organization willing to involve itself in politics/policy/campaigning needs to do so under a separate filing status with separate funding channels.
So if a group is formed to protect children, they cannot speak out against government policies or politicians concerning children? A tax exempt religious group cannot speak out if government policies are infringing on their right to practice religion? Are politicians and the government protected from any and all criticism?

Being critical of government laws and regs is different then going out and campaigning to "Elect Chuck Smith for president."
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:47 PM
 
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But thats not true.. Only certain groups need to do so under seperate filing statutus...

Hence the Planned Parenthood Action Committee, which isnt being bothered.
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What do you have to say about these folks? Are you a hypocrite?

Elections & Politics - Planned Parenthood Action Center
You guys are going to give me an aneurysm. Seriously please try reading beyond the freaking headlines.
Whether you agree with the rules or not PPAC is a 501c4. It takes separate (non tax deductible) donations, and was established expressly for advocacy and political purposes. For Pete's sake, they even state that in your link.
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:49 PM
 
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You guys are going to give me an aneurysm. Seriously please try reading beyond the freaking headlines.
Whether you agree with the rules or not PPAC is a 501c4. It takes separate (non tax deductible) donations, and was established expressly for advocacy and political purposes. For Pete's sake, they even state that in your link.
no, 501C4 was not established for political purposes at all..

501C4: Civic Leagues, Social Welfare Organizations, and Local Associations of Employees
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:50 PM
 
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What do you have to say about these folks? Are you a hypocrite?

Elections & Politics - Planned Parenthood Action Center
Cecile Richards is the president of Planned Parenthood, and she wrote an article but is not seen her status revoked; and this was not ten years ago.

Planned Parenthood

A Romney presidency would decimate health care for 5 million poor and uninsured people a year, writes Cecile Richards, president of the Planned Parenthood Action Fund.


If you want to see what women’s health care in America will be like if Mitt Romney becomes president, just look at Texas and Arizona.
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:50 PM
 
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You cant in one breath suggest its ok for one political group to remain tax exempt, i.e. planned parenthood action committee, and then in the next suggest that another group who does THE EXACT SAME THING, shouldnt be, just because you disagree with their political stance.

Which is it? Either its ok, or its not...
I don't think PAC's should be tax-exempt at all.

There's a reason why organizations have separate PAC's.
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:52 PM
 
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And in case anyone wants to bother, Here's a link to the IRS letter to the Patrick Henry Center. They did a lot more than say bad things about the Clintons. A lot more.
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