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First time I came across this group was the Bundy Ranch. Rachel Maddow did a segment on the history of groups like this going back to the Eisenhower administration and a group called Posse Comitatus and a preacher William Potter Gale. They don't believe in the federal government and local sheriffs reign supreme.
Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were of the same mindset, they believed they were sovereign citizens, McVeigh was pulled over after the Oklahoma City bombing in a car without license plates because he did not recognize the federal government.
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So, individuals are sovereign. Only the county sheriff is in charge.
The federal government has no authority, in this guy`s white supremacist
world. And yes, his operating theory sounds crazy and fringe -- and it was
crazy and fringe.
First time I came across this group was the Bundy Ranch. Rachel Maddow did a segment on the history of groups like this going back to the Eisenhower administration and a group called Posse Comitatus and a preacher William Potter Gale. They don't believe in the federal government and local sheriffs reign supreme.
Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were of the same mindset, they believed they were sovereign citizens, McVeigh was pulled over after the Oklahoma City bombing in a car without license plates because he did not recognize the federal government.
Are you seriously sitting there comparing Bundy to McVeigh? And Maddow is your source?
Fail.
You are taking this too literally. She is not the only one bringing up McVeigh's name in the same breath as Bundy's. They are both admirers of the militia anti-government movement. How can any "patriot" defend Bundy? He does not recognize the federal government and appears to be encouraging lawlessness and violent confrontations. McVeigh's bombing was partially motivated by Waco. Since Bundy seemed to be encouraging another Waco event by aligning with the militia groups who used very threatening language, while appearing to be ready for violence, of course there will be comparisons. It's their world and government views that are being compared.
The CSPOA is a fairly small collection of nutburger law officers, most of them retired, who believe a lot of the idiotic SovCit nonsense, starting with the claim (embedded in their organization's name) that county sheriffs are the highest ranked law enforcement authority under the US Constitution, and therefore empowered to keep the feds off their territory.
This in spite of the fact that the word "sheriff" can be found nowhere in the Constitution at all.
They were founded by former-Sheriff Richard Mack who won a court case that nullified part of the Brady Bill back in 1997. He's been riding that cash cow ever since, making his living off of speaking fees from the Oathkeeper/Militia/Tea Party circuit.
He's also the one that wanted to move all the women into the front lines at Bundy Ranch, so they would be the first to get slaughtered should the government start shooting. He thought would be a swell media visual.
At the end of the day, what does this have to do with the fact that he owes money to the federal government and doesn't wanna pay what he owes.
I don't give a damn what he thinks about black people...same goes for Sowell. Pay your bills like the rest of us and stop freeloading.
Basically you're saying that if the government can concoct a fee, any fee, for anything whatsoever at anytime, today or in the future, no matter what it is for, then you have an obligation to pay it, no questions asked?
This seems to sum up your profound reliance (read: slobbering reverence) on government quite well.
Basically you're saying that if the government can concoct a fee, any fee, for anything whatsoever at anytime, today or in the future, no matter what it is for, then you have an obligation to pay it, no questions asked?
This seems to sum up your profound reliance (read: slobbering reverence) on government quite well.
He took his cattle on land he was not supposed to and let them graze, he was told not to before, lost several law suits and when told to pay up he said NO I don't want to. He should have been arrested and thrown in prison, and no because he was a freeloading nobody but somehow many on the right have latched onto this guy as some sort of mythical hero when in actuality he's trash. If all his neighbors have to pay a grazing fee what makes this pile of dough think he's any better? So aero you and the other lunatic fringe on this fright can continue slobbering over this thing that is called a human all you like while screaming FREEDOM over every stupid little thing and I will sit here and laugh at you.
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Basically you're saying that if the government can concoct a fee, any fee, for anything whatsoever at anytime, today or in the future, no matter what it is for, then you have an obligation to pay it, no questions asked?
This seems to sum up your profound reliance (read: slobbering reverence) on government quite well.
Yes, if you use the service or product that insecure that fee.
George Washington sent troops to Western Pennsylvania with 13,000 men for less.
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Thomas Sowell sounds a bit like Cliven Bundy
