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Old 05-04-2014, 01:42 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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It's a subject most people don't seem to be talking about much. Even most news shows are talking about whether to blame a video afterward. But in fact, the question of deteriorating defense at the consulate even while attacks were increasing, is by far the most important question about the situation leading up to the attack on Sept. 11, 2012, where four Americans were killed including a U.S. Ambassador.

All that spring and summer leading up to September, terrorists were shooting into the compound, throwing bombs over the wall, ambushing convoys going to and from that and other diplomatic facilities in Libya, etc. Ambassador Stevens and other officials on the spot, kept begging Washington for more security forces to protect the diplomatic personnel. But the only response from the Obama administration, was to continually reduce security, sending American forces home, and often replacing them with Libyan personnel who were not even armed.

It seemed to be the outlook of the Obama administration that if American forces looked genteel and non-threatening, Americans would be treated more nicely. How this viewpoint persisted through the escalating attacks on the weakest of the U.S. diplomatic posts, remains unexplained. Obama was also stressing his "victories" over Al Qaeda as the November presidential election loomed - an agenda that would have suffered if he had acknowledged that we needed more guards at diplomatic posts instead of fewer. So he simply didn't provide any, despite increasing hostility.

At one point, terrorists blew a hole in the consulate wall, large enough to drive a truck through. Shortly afterward, the Obama administration removed almost the last of the American security forces, leaving a grand total of three American security guards to protect the dozens of personnel at the site.

Even while other embassies and consulates got lavish upgrades to their facilities, security, bigger diplomatic budgets etc., security at the Benghazi compound became pitiful. When Ambassador Stevens arrived in early September he brought two personal bodyguards... which nearly doubled the number of American security forces there, briefly.

When a well-organized attack finally destroyed the compound and killed four Americans inside, they didn't stand much chance.

Questions today about who lied afterward, who blamed whom for talking points after the fact etc., seems ludicrously irrelevant, next to the real question:

Who decided that security at the compound would be reduced week after week, month after month even as terrorist attacks mounted and increased? And why did he decide to reduce the forces protecting our personnel? Was it just to pretend the President was doing a better job against middle Eastern terrorists, than he was?

Were four American lives sacrificed, including a U.S. Ambassador, just so Barack Obama could look better during an election season, to an American public who wasn't paying much attention?
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Old 05-04-2014, 01:51 PM
 
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Yes, Bengazi was the key to Obama’s election
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Old 05-04-2014, 01:55 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Yes, Bengazi was the key to Obama’s election
Looks like the standard liberal defense is already beginning: "Let's pretend he said something he didn't say, and bash that instead."

Back to the subject:
Who decided that security at the compound would be reduced week after week, month after month even as terrorist attacks mounted and increased? And why did he decide to reduce the forces protecting our personnel? Was it just to pretend the President was doing a better job against middle Eastern terrorists, than he was?

Were four American lives sacrificed, including a U.S. Ambassador, just so Barack Obama could look better during an election season, to an American public who wasn't paying much attention?
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Old 05-04-2014, 02:00 PM
 
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Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi

Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi
Some people have a one track mind.....
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Old 05-04-2014, 02:05 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Some people have a one track mind.....
Definitely, like:

Bush
Bush
Bush
Fox
Bush
Bush
Bush
Tea_
Bush
Bush
Bush
Koch
Bush
Bush...
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Old 05-04-2014, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Richmond/Philadelphia/Brooklyn
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Definitely, like:

Bush
Bush
Bush
Fox
Bush
Bush
Bush
Tea_
Bush
Bush
Bush
Koch
Bush
Bush...
except not at all honestly, I have heard MUCH less about Bush (barely any as we move further away) and Fox news from the left that I have about Benghazi from the right.

Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi
Obamunism
Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi
Ferrloaders
Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi
Obamacare
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Old 05-04-2014, 02:15 PM
 
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Benghazi was a CIA front. CIA hired local militias and mercs for security.

Stevens was in fact offered increased security a multiple times directly from General Ham but refused each offer without explanation.

snopes.com: Attack on the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi
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Old 05-04-2014, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Richmond/Philadelphia/Brooklyn
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It's a subject most people don't seem to be talking about much. Even most news shows are talking about whether to blame a video afterward. But in fact, the question of deteriorating defense at the consulate even while attacks were increasing, is by far the most important question about the situation leading up to the attack on Sept. 11, 2012, where four Americans were killed including a U.S. Ambassador.
Because they are sick of the craziest of the crazies pretending there is some scandal behind the incident.
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Old 05-04-2014, 02:22 PM
 
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Benghazi was a CIA front. CIA hired local militias and mercs for security.

Stevens was in fact offered increased security a multiple times directly from General Ham but refused each offer without explanation.

snopes.com: Attack on the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi
What is it about this that the right absolutely cannot/will not hear? How many times does it need to be repeated? Do they think if they ask enough times the answers will magically change?

The fact that they refuse to hear this means they have no real interest in the truth. They want a scandal, damn it, and they are going to have one, even if they have to invent it! And that's exactly what they are doing.
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Old 05-04-2014, 02:23 PM
 
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Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi

Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi
Some people have a one track mind.....
And some people do not have a mind at all...

Can we say P-e_L-O-s-i

I often wondered why America gets involved in so many military conflicts.
Now I can see why. Folks like you vote folks like her into power, who
do not have a clue about much.
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