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Old 05-08-2014, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
All true, but the net effect under the Obama Admin is that the wealth and income gaps have widened, and the middle class has lost.

To claim that only the R's benefit the rich is blatant misrepresentation.
The recession/depression sent many jobs offshore.
Has more to do with economics than Obama being in office.

First world countries plunged under heavy debt while emerging nations took off.
Consumers are growing in these nations and companies are following the money.

Don't let partisan politics blind you.
Globalism finally hit Joe Mainstream starting in 2009.
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Old 05-08-2014, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So true. Investors (many of the top 1%) make their money on rising capital gains. You can make that money too if you invest in the stock market and LEAVE IT THERE without touching it. You just won't make as much as them.
Apple stock plunged to $97 a share in 2009.
Look at what it is today.

Actually you don't "leave it there" because profits on paper don't count.
You sell and take your profits off the table..that is increasing your wealth.
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Old 05-08-2014, 08:36 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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All true, but the net effect under the Obama Admin is that the wealth and income gaps have widened, and the middle class has lost.

To claim that only the R's benefit the rich is blatant misrepresentation.
But these are Republican policies. You have said it yourself, you even point out how Democrats havent done what the people who elected them wanted them to do.
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Old 05-08-2014, 08:41 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Apple stock plunged to $97 a share in 2009.
Look at what it is today.

Actually you don't "leave it there" because profits on paper don't count.
You sell and take your profits off the table..that is increasing your wealth.
I think he was just saying not to pull it out the first time you see the price per share spike up
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Old 05-08-2014, 08:43 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The recession/depression sent many jobs offshore.
Has more to do with economics than Obama being in office.

First world countries plunged under heavy debt while emerging nations took off.
Consumers are growing in these nations and companies are following the money.

Don't let partisan politics blind you.
Globalism finally hit Joe Mainstream starting in 2009.
The entire gist of my post was that neither party has a viable solution. Both parties benefit only the rich. Not sure how you get partisanship out of that.
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Old 05-08-2014, 08:45 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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But these are Republican policies. You have said it yourself, you even point out how Democrats havent done what the people who elected them wanted them to do.
That doesn't make them R policies. That just means that the Dems can do no better, and have actually been worse.
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Old 05-08-2014, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The entire gist of my post was that neither party has a viable solution. Both parties benefit only the rich. Not sure how you get partisanship out of that.
And you're just now figuring that out ?

LOL..it's every man for himself here if you are not a big time political donor.

Solution ? To what..the very problems that government created that got us here to begin with ?
Certainly you are not naive enough to think that government is going to fix all that they did wrong ?
No my friend. Government only cares that you continue to send them money.
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Old 05-08-2014, 08:59 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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And you're just now figuring that out ?
No, which is what makes your post odd. You've ascribed beliefs to me which I simply do not hold. Please don't.
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:05 AM
 
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"Smaller government" and "less regulations" are nothing else but populist agenda.
no, "less regulations" are not populist.

regulations that favor the individual over large institutions are populist.

republicans engage in what i call "selective deregulation." they talk a big game about libertarianism, but when the hard decisions need to be made, they support regulations which benefit big business.

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I would like to the republican ran government that actually becomes smaller and has less regulations lol
in english plz?
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:39 AM
 
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"Less regulations"is a populist slogan as withe complexity of life in XXI century there is no way to have regulations, only more.




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no, "less regulations" are not populist.

regulations that favor the individual over large institutions are populist.

republicans engage in what i call "selective deregulation." they talk a big game about libertarianism, but when the hard decisions need to be made, they support regulations which benefit big business.

in english plz?
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