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Old 05-09-2014, 02:28 PM
 
Location: PNW
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Originally Posted by hammertime33 View Post
What a horrible ruling. The government should not be leading my child in a pledge to a god.
To a god???

Apparently you've forgotten the first line of the Pledge of Allegiance

Come on, you can do it, repeat after me:

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America"
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Old 05-09-2014, 02:29 PM
 
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Apparently you've forgotten the first line of the Pledge of Allegiance
Huh???
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Old 05-09-2014, 02:31 PM
 
Location: PNW
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What a horrible ruling. The government should not be leading my child in a pledge to a god.
Here, let me quote you again and let me reiterate: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America"

Clear now?
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Old 05-09-2014, 02:33 PM
 
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Here, let me quote you again and let me reiterate: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America"

Clear now?
No, not clear. I still find nothing wrong with what I said, nor I have been able to glean an intelligible argument from your posts.
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Old 05-09-2014, 02:35 PM
 
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Here, let me quote you again and let me reiterate: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America"

Clear now?
I see that you edited your post. Are you making the argument that the pledge is to a piece of cloth (a flag)?
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Old 05-09-2014, 02:36 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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No, not clear. I still find nothing wrong with what I said, nor I have been able to glean an intelligible argument from your posts.
this part:

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pledge to a god
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Old 05-09-2014, 02:38 PM
 
Location: PNW
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Wow...

Okay...you said "it's a pledge to a god". I'm telling you no, it's not; stating that the first line of the Pledge specifically says pledging alleginace to our county, not a god.

What is so difficult to understand?

EDIT: Yeah, I'm editing for additional information that I wanted to add to my post. So what? And thank you Ugga for trying to reinforce my point
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Old 05-09-2014, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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What a horrible ruling. The government should not be leading my child in a pledge to a god.

In truth, you should be opposed to the government forcing children who don't yet even have the capacity for reason, to begin pledging their blind allegiance to a nation they know nothing about.


If you wanted to be principled, you should abolish the pledge of allegiance. And if you really wanted to be consistent, you would abolish the government indoctrination facilities that we call "public schools".
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Old 05-09-2014, 02:42 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Massachusetts: Pledge of Allegiance not religious

Good for the court.

It's about time some of these PC loons had it pointed out to them, how silly they are.
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Old 05-09-2014, 03:01 PM
 
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I Pledge Allegiance to the flag and to the Republic for which it stands.

Please explain how it is a pledge to God.
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God..."

It says we're pledging to the Flag and the Republic, but we're not really pledging allegiance to a piece of cloth, we're pledging allegiance to the ideas for which our nation stands.

The pledge doesn't enumerate all of the ideas embodied by our nation, but it does describes two of them: the first is that we're a Republic, and the second is the part added in the 1950s: "under God." Under means in a condition of subjection and subordination. So when you say "under God", you're pledging allegiance to the idea that our nation is the subject of, and subordinate to, God.

That's a pledge to God (in a sense, it's a stronger pledge to God than it is to the US).
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