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Old 05-15-2014, 02:51 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Redistribution of wealth - taking away to give cash to others - is not really what any mainstream person calls for.

Simply giving money to others is a recipe for disaster. But investing in the country and its people would ultimately pay dividends for the wealthy as much as it does for the poorer classes and especially, the middle class.
The entire purpose of Obamacare, keep in mind, is to take money from people who have it and give it to people who don't. So they charge huge premiums to "everybody", and then "give subsidies" to people with lower-paying jobs... which accomplishes exactly the "wealth redistribution" you talked about.

"Health care" is just the excuse. Redistribution is the goal.

Mission accomplished.
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Old 05-15-2014, 02:51 PM
 
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I don't earn billions a year but it didn't stop these people from attacking and going after people like me. Remember, when you attack people and take from them you won't get much sympathy.

When people work hard to earn money only to have it taken away to "give" to others, what is to stop them from saying, I'll just quit and have money re-distributed to me.
nobody's attacking you chill out man .. it seems like you don't get the concept of it, or just don't want to I don't know ... redistributing wealth is quite a complex process, it's not like the money goes from one pocket to another
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Old 05-15-2014, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yep, people who are capable but just want a free ride paid for by hard working people.

Don't bother with trying to say "everyone". It won't work here. You know damn well we are talking about the disgusting, lazy.
So basically you are not talking about half of Americans or even a quarter of Americans, but actually a very small percentage of Americans, got it.
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Old 05-15-2014, 02:52 PM
 
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People who blame everyone else for their own financial mess will be the group that redistribution won't help. They'll just come back and demand more.
I agree. But sadly, like you have just witnessed, when you answer honestly, people get the knives out and start in on you as a mean, heartless person.
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Old 05-15-2014, 02:53 PM
 
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That is when I knew we would go into defending ourselves from Obama.

What a shame the press wanted to make it about "Joe" rather than Obama's words.....and people fell for it.

At least Obama got nothing from us.
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Old 05-15-2014, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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the general idea about redistributing wealth is to ensure everybody can live decently and to diminish wealth inequality ... now you sound like a person who'd send poor people to extermination camps because they didn't succeed in life
Nothing like one extreme being met with another!

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If everything were equal in 10 years....

The same people would have money.

The same people would live check to check.

The same people would be broke......and crying about it.
This is so true. It isn't just about investing so much as it is the motivation to succeed. You can't take the sloth out of a slug.
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Old 05-15-2014, 03:00 PM
 
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Does "redistribute the wealth" means taxes? Is the OP saying people shouldn't pay taxes because it is redistributed?
does government spend tax money well? whom shall we nuke next?
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Old 05-15-2014, 03:01 PM
 
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Nice try.

Any indication that Obama wants to take wealth/money from others and give it to people in the form of cash payments as a form of wealth redistribution? Monthly annuity checks, perhaps, garnered from confiscation of wealthy American's fortunes?


There IS a problem in this country with wealth and assets being concentrated in fewer and fewer hands. Within a generation or two we will return to the model of aristocratic Europe.


To invest in America and its people again - the way we did immediately after WW2 - would be the best use of higher taxes on wealth and portions of income over certain levels. THAT is wealth redistribution that helps everyone.



BTW: Joe the Plumber was a hack. He's now a member of the UAW, lol!
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Old 05-15-2014, 03:04 PM
 
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Nice try.

Any indication that Obama wants to take wealth/money from others and give it to people in the form of cash payments as a form of wealth redistribution.


There IS a problem in this country with wealth and assets being concentrated in fewer and fewer hands. Within a generation or two we will return to the model of aristocratic Europe.


To invest in America and its people again - the way we did immediately after WW2 - would be the best use of higher taxes on wealth and portions of income over certain levels. THAT is wealth redistribution that helps everyone.



BTW: Joe the Plumber was a hack. He's now a member of the UAW, lol!
You fell for the press wanting you to pay attention to Joe....not Obama's words???

What difference does it make WHO asked the question??
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Old 05-15-2014, 03:05 PM
 
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To invest in America and its people again - the way we did immediately after WW2 - would be the best use of higher taxes on wealth and portions of income over certain levels. THAT is wealth redistribution that helps everyone.

BTW: Joe the Plumber was a hack. He's now a member of the UAW, lol!
Invest into America LOL, why work when the government will give it to you.. until you run out of other peoples money.

And people who don't want Obamacare are FORCED into Obamacare and then counted as part of Obamacare success. So you would call people FORCED into Obamacare a hack?

And you support tyranny.
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