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Old 05-16-2014, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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No, he was not, and neither was GW Bush.

The people who should be deciding what their children should be learning are the parents and the local school board, not some bureaucrats off in Washington.

The community in my town decides to pool our taxes together to build a school, we do not need some federal bureaucrats storming in, pushing us all aside and mandating how, what and when we conduct education, nor what we teach our children. We built the school, our taxes fund it, so big government can go the hell away.
Did your state sign up for CC and/or RTT ?
If so your independence is short lived.
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If you think the federal government is a threat ... you don't want to live in Texas, nor do you want to look at how wing-nuts in Texas have so badly impacted the education of our children by dictating content of text books distributed nationally. Oh, let's not forget those folks who want to burn books or othewise prevent us from exercising our rights to free speech and assembly.
Everyday Math did more harm to US school children over the course of time and that did not come out of Texas.
Just what has Texas done to impact education ?
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:13 AM
 
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Just what has Texas done to impact education ?
Oh, please. Let's not play cat and mouse.

Google the topic, and you'll find hundreds of references. Here's just one I found in 5 seconds:

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“What happens in Texas doesn’t stay in Texas when it comes to textbooks,”
said Dan Quinn, who worked as an editor of social studies textbooks before
joining the Texas Freedom Network, which was founded by Governor Ann Richards’s
daughter, Cecile, to counter the religious right.

As a market, the state was so big and influential that national publishers
tended to gear their books toward whatever it wanted. Back in 1994, the board
requested four hundred revisions in five health textbooks it was considering.
Source: How Texas Inflicts Bad Textbooks on Us by Gail Collins | The New York Review of Books
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Oh, please. Let's not play cat and mouse.

Google the topic, and you'll find hundreds of references. Here's just one I found in 5 seconds:



Source: How Texas Inflicts Bad Textbooks on Us by Gail Collins | The New York Review of Books
All hype and talk if you notice.
The article goes into what various people wanted or didn't want in the textbooks.

Ultimately the extremists lost.

Darwin is still in science textbooks.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Federal Takerover Of Education, A ‘National School Board’??

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Typical, liberal dems think the federal government must be the central planner for the entire country, and we should just turn over our lives to the brilliance of the federal bureaucrat master minds.

The senior Republican on the Senate committee that oversees education charged that an early education proposal by HELP committee Democrats would essentially create a national school board for preschoolers.

The Democrats’ early education plan would put decisions for states on such details as teacher salaries, class sizes, staff qualifications and length of the school day in federal hands, Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) said. States would then be required to pay half of the program’s cost after 8 years.


The PJ Tatler » Senate Dems Push ‘National School Board’ for Preschoolers

Oh no!

The gummint's comin' for your preschooler!

How come no one's organizing another 10 million patriot uprising like the one happening right now in DC?

That'll show 'em.

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Old 05-19-2014, 11:06 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Originally Posted by OICU812 View Post
No, he was not, and neither was GW Bush.

The people who should be deciding what their children should be learning are the parents and the local school board, not some bureaucrats off in Washington.

The community in my town decides to pool our taxes together to build a school, we do not need some federal bureaucrats storming in, pushing us all aside and mandating how, what and when we conduct education, nor what we teach our children. We built the school, our taxes fund it, so big government can go the hell away.
Please let me say this---
After many years of working with poor people, imho, its not whether they learned what their parents wanted them to learn, that matters. What matters if they can read, write and do basic math. As things stand, a huge majority of high school grads on welfare can't perform these functions, @ any higher level than the 6th grade. . This is not good enough to get a job (minimum 9th grade level proficiency is needed).
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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If states want federal funds then they have to follow federal conditions. Which red states are refusing federal education funds?
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:48 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Typical, liberal dems think the federal government must be the central planner for the entire country, and we should just turn over our lives to the brilliance of the federal bureaucrat master minds.

The senior Republican on the Senate committee that oversees education charged that an early education proposal by HELP committee Democrats would essentially create a national school board for preschoolers.

The Democrats’ early education plan would put decisions for states on such details as teacher salaries, class sizes, staff qualifications and length of the school day in federal hands, Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) said. States would then be required to pay half of the program’s cost after 8 years.

The PJ Tatler » Senate Dems Push ‘National School Board’ for Preschoolers
With our terrible results regarding education, our representatives should be hiding on this issue. While I applaud our Governor's 55% initiative to improve results, I seriously doubt we'll get close to his goal.
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