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Old 06-05-2014, 05:00 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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To be fair I think the video only shows those that don't know what memorial day is or indeed the 4th of July and by the looks of them they look as if they would have trouble remembering their own names never mind the meaning of significant events.

Our Memorial Day in the UK is Remembrance Sunday, the closest Sunday to the 11th November, the First World War having ended on the 11th day of the 11th Month at 11am precisely.

Remembrance Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In terms of the US Memorial Day which was May 26th this year, it is marked by a number of events in Britain, at places such as the US Military Cemeteries at Brookwood in Surrey and Madingley in Cambridgeshire. There's also a service at the American Memorial Chapel at St Paul's Cathedral in London and at the US Embassy at Grosvenor Square close to the Roosevelt Memorial and Eisenhower statue.

The Chapels - St Paul's Cathedral, London, UK

Brookwood American Cemetery | American Battle Monuments Commission

Madingley American Cemetery Cambridge|Cambridge American Military Cemetery

SLIDESHOW: Veterans and serving airmen gather at American cemetery in Madingley for Memorial Day | Cambridge City News, Cambridge Local News Stories & Latest Headlines | Cambridge News





As for the 70th D-DAY Commemoration tomorrow, it may be one of the last time that these survives get together as most are now in their 90's and I hope these brave old soldiers and their families have a emotional but wonderful day.

D-Day Anniversary Marks Farewell For Greatest Generation - TIME

A salute for the fallen men who liberated France: Veteran takes a moment to honour war dead as celebrations to mark 70th anniversary of D-Day begin on both sides of the Channel | Mail Online

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Old 06-05-2014, 05:13 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Where do you come up with this idea that schools make people stupid?

I taught HS science for 21 years in large urban public schools. I can assure you that the dummies arrived dumb and were never able to make much progress. The schools couldn't make them smart, no matter the amount of effort anyone put into it.
That's because by 8th grade, U.S. public schools have only educated 1/3 of all students to grade-level proficiency, according to the longitudinal NAEP. Fully 2/3 of U.S. public school students are functioning below grade-level before they even enter high school. Dumbed down, by design.
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Old 06-05-2014, 05:19 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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So in other words they keep the smart held back with the dumb to make every one happy..

Morons...
Yep, that's exactly why by 8th grade, 2/3 of all public school students are not grade-level proficient. The top and middle students are held back while public schools focus on the struggling.
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Old 06-05-2014, 05:27 AM
 
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Home school is for people who don't want their kids to be taught the truth....Most home schoolers are bible thumpers who want to teach their kids creation in place of evolution.
Homeschooled students outperform others in nearly every measure.

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  1. Homeschool students earned a higher ACT score (26.5) versus 25.0 for other incoming freshmen.
  2. Homeschool students earned more college credits (14.7) prior to their freshmen year than other students (6.0).
  3. Homeschooled freshmen were less likely to live on campus (72.4%) than the rest of the freshmen class (92.7%).
  4. Homeschoolers were more likely to identify themselves as Roman Catholic (68.4%).
  5. Homeschool freshmen earned a higher grade points average (3.37) their first semester in college compared with the other freshmen (3.08).
  6. Homeschool students finished their freshmen year with a better GPA (3.41) than the rest of their class (3.12).
  7. The GPA advantage was still present when homeschoolers were college seniors. Their average GPA was 3.46 versus 3.16 for other seniors.
  8. Homeschool students graduated from college at a higher rate (66.7%) than their peers (57.5%).
Can Homeschoolers Do Well in College? - CBS News
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Old 06-05-2014, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Home school is for people who don't want their kids to be taught the truth....Most home schoolers are bible thumpers who want to teach their kids creation in place of evolution.

I tend to disagree with this assessment. I don't personally have kids so I can't say for sure. But I am definitely not a Christian and I would never let my child step foot in the utter garbage that we call public schools.


Even if you ignore "informedconsent's" argument about how home-schoolers outperform their public-school counterparts. I could actually care less about educational performance. Even if home-schoolers performed at lower levels than others, I still wouldn't care. Public school is total garbage in regards to everything that actually matters.


For one, public school doesn't teach you to be an independent thinker. It doesn't teach you to be creative. It doesn't teach you to think for yourself. It is the epitome of conformity. It throws you in an environment with a bunch of kids who are all the same age as you, and who know absolutely nothing about the real world. It doesn't teach you to be responsible. It doesn't teach you good manners. It doesn't really even teach you how to interact with actual people. It teaches you how to interact with children. The day you leave high school is basically the day you start to forget everything you learned in high school.

There is no real-world environment that remotely parallels public school. You will never again be "age-segregated". You will never again be in an environment where the only things that matter, are petty bullcrap. A world of "jocks", "preps", "skaters", "smokers", etc. In the real world, those divisions either don't exist at all, or are greatly subdued.

Furthermore, everything I learned about racism, I learned in public school. My mother wasn't racist. My family isn't racist. I learned racism in public school.


I would say that "youth culture". Which is practically inherently irresponsible, immoral, and violent, has been created by a public school system which not only puts kids in a situation where they are only around other kids all day long. But also public school has basically off-loaded all responsibility for raising children onto the public schools. Many parents hardly even talk to their children. Their only mentors and idols become the other kids in their school. Instead of actual adults.


And all of this ignores the even bigger problem. Children who go to public school tend to have a much worse "self-image" than people who are homeschooled. Especially teenage girls. The self-esteem of teenage girls in public school drops like a total rock. Its hard to imagine anyone going through public school and not feeling suicidal at least once.


With that said, I remember public school pretty clearly. A lot of what I learned in school was either a lie, or was completely misrepresented. This is especially true of anything having to do with "social studies"(especially History and Civics).


The only thing public school is good at, is indoctrinating kids by teaching and reinforcing what the government wants your children to know. Basically, it is about turning kids into an unthinking, unquestioning "citizens". Which is why they practically force every child to recite the "pledge of allegiance" every day through school. Which makes sense, since as soon as you leave school, you will never ever again recite the pledge(unless you join the military).


All nations have a public education system. Even craphole countries. And it isn't to help the people. It is to help the government. Public education systems are a product of "nationalism". To understand, you simply need to read about the German family that came to America as "refugees" because they wanted to homeschool their children and Germany said they couldn't and threatened to throw them in prison.


The German law was created during the "Hitler" era.

Hitler


"Homeschoolers tend to think more independently and may espouse philosophies deemed harmful to the state–philosophies centered around faith, for example, or liberty, or a whole host of other “subversive” ideas. The State, then, must curb such freedom of thought. The public schools thus become an assembly-line-style factory of sorts, churning out Good Citizens who won’t shake things up the way homeschoolers evidently might; public school youth are “taught,” after all, not only how to think (or not think), but also what to think. Their curricula are centrally planned by a government committee, carefully vetted by government bureaucrats, disseminated by government workers, upheld by government judges, and enforced by government thugs."
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Old 06-05-2014, 06:35 AM
 
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Home school is for people who don't want their kids to be taught the truth....Most home schoolers are bible thumpers who want to teach their kids creation in place of evolution.
You are clueless. Home school students out-perform public school students in almost every metric in the States. I have no idea what happens in the great white north where you come from.
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Old 06-05-2014, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Non Extradition Country
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I don't think schools are meant to 'produce' smart people.

Schools give people the tools and avenues they need to be smart people.

What you do with it is totally up to you. You can only blame yourself if you don't take advantage of those tools.
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:05 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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I don't think schools are meant to 'produce' smart people.

Schools give people the tools and avenues they need to be smart people.

What you do with it is totally up to you. You can only blame yourself if you don't take advantage of those tools.
A common sense answer. Bravo!
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:16 AM
 
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Our schools are not teaching real history any more because real history is not politically correct and it may hurt someone's feelings.

Spot on. The Liberals have been successful in neutering our History and ensuring that social history is dominant.
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:18 AM
 
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Home school is for people who don't want their kids to be taught the truth....Most home schoolers are bible thumpers who want to teach their kids creation in place of evolution.


There are many people who see the mess public education is in and want no part of it strictly because of the lack of educational standards. I taught my son at home. He went on to get a degree in teaching while ironically ending up with the Air Force and E.O.D. Please quit using stereotypes of homeschooling. Also, if people prefer to teach their own children for religious reasons it is their decision.
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