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Old 06-05-2014, 08:42 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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Stupidity is the only reason for paying such a price.

A "tiny" home can be built for $20,000 or even much less with a bit of the "owner/builder" thing. That's assuming you have the land and small homes aren't illegal.
Note where they are located. Certainly, the homes themselves are built with expensive materials, but the cost is mostly in the land.

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$100 per square foot?? For cheap materials? Ughh... rip off...
Are we referring to the same houses? The Third Street Cottages made it into Fine Homebuilding. They are not slapped together with cheap materials.

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If you think you want to live in less than 400 sq ft like I do (I would have it no other way), rent a motel room with a kitchenette and live there for two or three months. If it's you, great! If not, you haven't made a stupid mistake that will cost you big money.
Another possibility is renting a hermitage. There are many out west. You'll learn very quickly whether or not the lifestyle suits you. For me, the answer is unequivocally yes, but as I am married with children, my tiny house experience is limited to two weeks every couple of years.

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Old 06-05-2014, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The irony is that people with money are downsizing to smaller, more efficient homes while the rest still march to the American Dream of bigger is better.

Opulent display of one's wealth is built into American society.
Slowly people are shedding that and that is good.

"Affordable" is subjective and relative.
Laminate counters, carpet and vinyl tile in the bathrooms are things that make homes affordable.
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:52 AM
 
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$100 per square foot?? For cheap materials? Ughh... rip off...
Just admit you know nothing about tiny house construction. Some of them are designed by world renowned firms and feature exquisite materials.
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Old 06-05-2014, 11:03 AM
 
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The irony is that people with money are downsizing to smaller, more efficient homes while the rest still march to the American Dream of bigger is better.

Opulent display of one's wealth is built into American society.
Slowly people are shedding that and that is good.

"Affordable" is subjective and relative.
Laminate counters, carpet and vinyl tile in the bathrooms are things that make homes affordable.

??? People without money have always been downsized.
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Old 06-05-2014, 11:04 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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Those are really cute, but did you see the price tag on them?



The Cottage Company - Listing Detail

This is the same company that built the third street cottages.
I don't see anything shocking about that price given its location. I sold a 1100 sq. ft. home on the west coast in 2006 for $550k, and, unlike the house above, it really was cheaply built. In any case, the house referenced, while small by today's standards, is definitely not a tiny house.

The tiny house movement is facing tremendous hurdles. For the moment, it is a niche market hamstrung by municipal codes that are for the most part insurmountable. The major cost of a house is not in the building materials; it is in the land and underlying infrastructure. That's why these tiny homes are often found in backyards, hooked up to the utilities of a traditional house. Alternatively, a handful of tiny home pocket neighborhoods have experienced limited success in progressive cities on the west coast, but it comes at a price well above what even a middle-class home buyer can afford.

Jay Shafer's effort to found a "trailer park" for tiny homes in Sonoma County, California, is one way to thwart the establishment's rules and regulations. We'll have to wait and see how it turns out.

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Old 06-05-2014, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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??? People without money have always been downsized.
People without money are not building homes.
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:38 PM
 
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Just admit you know nothing about tiny house construction. Some of them are designed by world renowned firms and feature exquisite materials.
a buddy of mine built a tiny house on their property, said it was ~ $20k, it has a 46" tv on the wall and a got a full size fridge

i think everything was from home depot... it's pretty clean though, someone can live there, the toilet flushes too

they got the plan on amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KSD7516
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Jay Shafer's effort to found a "trailer park" for tiny homes in Sonoma County, California, is one way to thwart the establishment's rules and regulations. We'll have to wait and see how it turns out.
Why is that a way to "thwart rules and regulations". They are trailers. They belong in trailer parks. Not such a reach. And...nothing new.
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:57 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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Why is that a way to "thwart rules and regulations". They are trailers. They belong in trailer parks. Not such a reach. And...nothing new.
The homes are on trailers because they are below the minimum threshold for square footage in most municipalities, and it's the only way to make it work. Few tiny house owners have been successful in putting their home on a permanent foundation, although many would very much like to do so.

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Old 06-05-2014, 01:59 PM
 
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The irony is that people with money are downsizing to smaller, more efficient homes while the rest still march to the American Dream of bigger is better.

Opulent display of one's wealth is built into American society.
Slowly people are shedding that and that is good.

"Affordable" is subjective and relative.
Laminate counters, carpet and vinyl tile in the bathrooms are things that make homes affordable.

Exactly, that's why the tiny house movement is really more of a lifestyle statement than a true solution for affordable housing. It's a way to display a rejection of conspicuous consumerism and hoarding of necessary stuff., Which is kind of ironic considering that they are buying something to show their disdain for consumerism.

Anyway, even outside of the tiny house movement, there is a movement by a subset of wealthy Boomers and younger urbanites to eschew the bigger is better American dream for simple homes in urban centers.
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