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Old 06-08-2014, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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The backlash effect: basically, if you're part of an oppressed group, you have a right to give your oppressor a taste of their own medicine, to an extent, perhaps as payback. If they complain they are told they are whining, so:
* non-whites can be racist towards whites
* women can be sexist to men
* fat people can make fun of skinny people
etc
Wouldn't you say this is true? Do you think there's an element of institutionalised revenge almost in this? I know that calling a white person a 'cracker' doesn't have the same historical punch behind it, but should be be more serious about enforcing one consistent standard for all, or should we give some groups a free pass/more slack?

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Old 06-08-2014, 06:16 PM
 
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The backlash effect: basically, if you're part of an oppressed group, you have a right to give your oppressor a taste of their own medicine, to an extent, perhaps as payback. If they complain they are told they are whining, so:
* non-whites can be racist towards
* women can be sexist to men
* fat people can make fun of skinny people
etc
Wouldn't you say this is true? Do you think there's an element of institutionalised revenge almost in this? I know that calling a white person a 'cracker' doesn't have the same historical punch behind it, but should be be more serious about enforcing one consistent standard for all, or should we give some groups a free pass/more slack?
Maybe.....but, more to the point....the hate is spreading...fast.
 
Old 06-08-2014, 06:17 PM
 
Location: southern california
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its not backlash its not payback. its revenge. the bible talks about the results and the chinese have lots of proverbs about the results.
 
Old 06-08-2014, 06:19 PM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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The backlash effect: basically, if you're part of an oppressed group, you have a right to give your oppressor a taste of their own medicine, to an extent, perhaps as payback. If they complain they are told they are whining, so:
* non-whites can be racist towards
* women can be sexist to men
* fat people can make fun of skinny people
etc
Wouldn't you say this is true? Do you think there's an element of institutionalised revenge almost in this? I know that calling a white person a 'cracker' doesn't have the same historical punch behind it, but should be be more serious about enforcing one consistent standard for all, or should we give some groups a free pass/more slack?
Institutionalized revenge is what most people envision when they fight for what they feel is "equality". When you work to justify racism against certain groups of people because of something that happened to a different group decades ago you're looking for revenge, plain and simple.
 
Old 06-08-2014, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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IDK, "cracker" is considered pretty insulting. I don't think any of my black friends would address a white person they didn't know well as a cracker unless they were looking for a fight. In that sense it's analogous to the N-word; if the N-word essentially communicates "you're no better than a slave", "cracker" communicates "you're no better than a slave owner" (i.e. cracker of whips.)
 
Old 06-08-2014, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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IDK, "cracker" is considered pretty insulting. I don't think any of my black friends would address a white person they didn't know well as a cracker unless they were looking for a fight. In that sense it's analogous to the N-word; if the N-word essentially communicates "you're no better than a slave", "cracker" communicates "you're no better than a slave owner" (i.e. cracker of whips.)
Yes, if the 'n' word is not acceptable than I don't think cracker should be, but I'm saying whites generally weren't oppressed, enslaved, lynched. The word 'cracker' did not generally spew with hatred and sometimes even murderous intent. I'm not saying it makes it okay at all though, but some might, or not take in seriously in comparison.
 
Old 06-08-2014, 06:35 PM
 
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Yes, if the 'n' word is not acceptable than I don't think cracker should be, but I'm saying whites generally weren't oppressed, enslaved, lynched. The word 'cracker' did not generally spew with hatred and sometimes even murderous intent. I'm not saying it makes it okay at all though, but some might, or not take in seriously in comparison.
In fact all of that DID happen to whites.
 
Old 06-08-2014, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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In fact all of that DID happen to whites.
At the hand of blacks? Maybe some isolated incident, but certainly not to the extent.
 
Old 06-09-2014, 08:51 AM
 
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At the hand of blacks? Maybe some isolated incident, but certainly not to the extent.
At the hands of tyrants. Some blacks are still the only ones who haven't moved and still whining about it.
 
Old 06-09-2014, 08:53 AM
 
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The backlash effect: basically, if you're part of an oppressed group, you have a right to give your oppressor a taste of their own medicine, to an extent, perhaps as payback. If they complain they are told they are whining, so:
* non-whites can be racist towards whites
* women can be sexist to men
* fat people can make fun of skinny people
etc
Wouldn't you say this is true? Do you think there's an element of institutionalised revenge almost in this? I know that calling a white person a 'cracker' doesn't have the same historical punch behind it, but should be be more serious about enforcing one consistent standard for all, or should we give some groups a free pass/more slack?
Imagine that... my ancestors weren't even in this country but the hate has been passed. Lets call it generational hate. So sad that people still to this day have such a heavy hateful heart even though they didn't experience it. Your parents did you no favors.

Is everyone taking note? This is what a "half" black president, who's ancestors did not experience slavery contributed to the U.S.
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