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Old 06-10-2014, 12:50 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Feeding the homeless is like feeding stray cats. First their is one getting the free food/benifits, then two, then three, then ten, then a hundred, then a thousand, then ten thousand all bleeding the city and thus tax payers of precious dollars.
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Old 06-10-2014, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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So we can no longer help our poor by feeding them but we can import and dump millions of poor south of the border bottom feeders, turn around and have to feed them? Got it.
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Old 06-10-2014, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Human beings are not wild animals, either.
You didn't get the analogy did you......

It's creating dependence and what happens because of it.
In that sense humans are no different than animals.

When they know there's free food to be had with no effort they come.
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Old 06-10-2014, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Texas
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National Parks ban feeding wild animals.

It teaches them to depend on humans for their very survival.

In doing so, it destroys their will and ability to provide for themselves. It takes a once proud, independant, self sufficient animal and turns them into helpless beggers. Worse, it teaches them to both expect and "demand" food from humans.

It makes them no more self sufficient than house pets.


Much like welfare and various forms of "assistance" do for humans.
So private citizens should not be allowed to freely give things to others? That's my problem with this. While I agree with the analogy in theory, this isn't about welfare or anything the government provides. I also recognize that some people need help sometimes and would prefer it to be handled privately; this could increase dependency on government.
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Old 06-10-2014, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Denver
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So we can no longer help our poor by feeding them but we can import and dump millions of poor south of the border bottom feeders, turn around and have to feed them? Got it.

Do you see south of the border ppl out on the corner begging for food? I don't.
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Old 06-10-2014, 01:01 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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You didn't get the analogy did you......

It's creating dependence and what happens because of it.
In that sense humans are no different than animals.

When they know there's free food to be had with no effort they come.
Oh, I'm sure everyone gets the analogy. You are equating humans with wild animals.

A large majority of homeless people have psychological problems. In other words, they are bordering insanity. Most of them should be in mental institutions.

Can't really say if wild animals are insane or not.
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Old 06-10-2014, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The problem the article doesn't mention is that once they come they tend to stay.
Then more come and stay.

The group feeding them doesn't take them in though. They feed them..end of story for them.

Feeding the homeless is not a solution by any means. It can actually create more problems because the homeless need to find somewhere close to stay/live until the next feeding time opens up. Then you get homeless camps forming. Then you get residents complaining to city hall.

And you know this Homeless Report cited by the article is not going to delve into any of those facts..right ?
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Old 06-10-2014, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The problem the article doesn't mention is that once they come they tend to stay.
Then more come and stay.

The group feeding them doesn't take them in though. They feed them..end of story for them.

Feeding the homeless is not a solution by any means. It can actually create more problems because the homeless need to find somewhere close to stay/live until the next feeding time opens up. Then you get homeless camps forming. Then you get residents complaining to city hall.

And you know this Homeless Report cited by the article is not going to delve into any of those facts..right ?
It's not that I disagree with any of this, but should private citizens and organizations really be banned from helping others?
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Old 06-10-2014, 01:36 PM
 
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It's not that I disagree with any of this, but should private citizens and organizations really be banned from helping others?
I think the argument goes like this:

You're feeding stray cats on public property creating a nuisance. Except its with human beings.

What exactly do they think will occur to the homeless if they aren't fed? We all know one place they get three hots and a cots, course that costs us tens of thousands a year.....

And these folks have mental issues.

We need a better solution, anyone got any great ideas? Im fond of mental hospitals for a class of them rather then regular jails....
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Old 06-10-2014, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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sure, but do you not understand what the homeless do in large cities? do you not realize the burden it puts on city services?
Do you not realize that unless homeless people who wish to get off the street are assisted, that the homeless population will not be reduced?
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