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Old 06-19-2014, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Reading the full transcript of the speech would probably be helpful. Rather than an edited youtube video. Edited to dishonestly mischaracterize the meaning of the speech.

Full Transcript: President Obama gives speech addressing Europe, Russia on March 26 - The Washington Post


You beat me to posting the link to the actual transcript.

Some people are eager to believe anything so long as it validates their perception.

The misinformation machines use the internet to spread the word. How many of these manipulations are funded by pacs and super pacs, we'll never know.

 
Old 06-19-2014, 12:07 PM
 
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"Those ideals have often been threatened by an older, more traditional view of power. This alternative vision argues that ordinary men and women are too small-minded to govern their own affairs, that order and progress can only come when individuals surrender their rights to an all-powerful sovereign."

I read that entire thing in context, and what I take from it is this. He's saying the founders believed that people should have a relationship with God, and freedoms are God-given, not government-given, and people can temper their own behavior through a personal relationship with a sovereign God.

In other words, he believes that way of thinking is backwards as he refers to it in a derogatory way. He believes in big government being sovereign, rather than a personal God.
Yeah, well at least government exists. And maybe that's the best thing you can say for it.

A "personal God" on the other hand.......
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