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Old 06-22-2014, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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In 1948 Israel became a nation.. prophecy was fulfilled. Israel will be attacked by the middle east and Russia . This is also prophecy that will come. World War III, then the great tribulation. Those that bless Israel will be blessed, those that curse Israel will be cursed. It is written.
Everything written is true?
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Old 06-22-2014, 08:31 AM
 
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Yep, it's the fundamentalist Christians that insist we keep sending billions of dollars to Israel. They won't get into heaven if we don't.
I have no problem if a fundamentalist Christian believes that supporting, dying and fighting for Israel gets you a ticket to heaven.

What I do have a problem with is sending my sons and daughters or sons and daughters of other Americans to die for their biblical beliefs. They should put there money where there mouth is and send only their sons and daughters into battle to die for a middle east war they see as fulfilling biblical prophecy.
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Old 06-22-2014, 08:31 AM
 
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In 1948 Israel became a nation.. prophecy was fulfilled. Israel will be attacked by the middle east and Russia . This is also prophecy that will come. World War III, then the great tribulation. Those that bless Israel will be blessed, those that curse Israel will be cursed. It is written.
Lol...nice. What a load of nonsense.

Your so called "God" allowed Jews to be slaughtered a trillion times over the last millennium...culminating in a brutal European Holocaust that damn near wiped them out.

He didn't lift a finger to protect them.

Then I suppose he's responsible for giving them an independent homeland...smack dab in the middle of a boiling cauldron where they haven't had an hour of peace.

You Christians with your "chosen people" foolishness are clueless.

At this point, I don't know why the Jews don't tell God to choose someone else.

It was written.

Unreal.
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Old 06-22-2014, 08:37 AM
 
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Southern Baptist are considered evangelical.

Catholics represent 25% of the US population and most definitely not evangelical.
Catholics weren't in that top ten list either -- but Presbyterians were.
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Old 06-22-2014, 08:38 AM
 
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the Christian Post over represents the number of Christians in the US.
And excludes the largest Christain denomination in the US.or that the majority of the world's population does not buy into the same beliefs or have a different interpretation.
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Old 06-22-2014, 08:40 AM
 
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That's probably because they are all dying out. The median age has gone from 59 to 63 in the span of just a few years. Over 90% of the church is white, its truly one of the last refuges for the old time WASP's. They've really been pulling out all the stops to do anything to stem the tide as existing members either die or simply walk away.
Sounds a tad like the Fox News demographic.
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Old 06-22-2014, 08:45 AM
 
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Lol...nice. What a load of nonsense.

Your so called "God" allowed Jews to be slaughtered a trillion times over the last millennium...culminating in a brutal European Holocaust that damn near wiped them out.

He didn't lift a finger to protect them.

Then I suppose he's responsible for giving them an independent homeland...smack dab in the middle of a boiling cauldron where they haven't had an hour of peace.

You Christians with your "chosen people" foolishness are clueless.

At this point, I don't know why the Jews don't tell God to choose someone else.

It was written.

Unreal.
Yep, that Christian God is one mean son of a *****. He sits by and does nothing while his "chosen people" are slaughtered again and again through the centuries, while at the same time demanding total obedience to his cruel indifference.

But remember, boys and girls, "He loves you." (With props to George Carlin)
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Old 06-22-2014, 08:50 AM
 
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You should read Ezekiel 38 and 39. It prophecies an attack by Gog (leader of Rosh, which is the land that is now Russia) and Persia, now Iran, on a restored Israel.

That may seem hard to believe, but the thought of a restored Israel would have seemed hard to believe 100 years ago.
I think some Christians don't understand the Gog, Magog & Persia connection of prophecy. If they did they would see President Obama negotiating with Iran is NOT a smart move. Christians who don't understand the Bible are more dangerous than those who do.


Didn't the Catholic Church backs on Israel, as in WWll.......look at the price the church has paid for it's non- commitment to Israel. Best of luck to those members, glad that's not my church.


Food for thought: Romans 11:28

Concerning the gospel, the Jews were enemies; concerning the election, the Jews were chosen by God and the objects of His unalterable promises which He made to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. In the days of the early church (as seen in the book of Acts) the greatest opposition to the preaching of the gospel came from unbelieving Jews. This is perhaps most clearly seen in 1 Thess. 2:14-16 (these are very strong words, but remember that they were written by the same Apostle who wrote Romans 9:1-4 and 10:1). The unbelief and hostility of certain Jews does not alter the promises of God toward the nation which He has chosen (see Deut. 7:6-8 and Deut. 10:15). Romans 11:28 is very helpful in showing us what our attitude should be towards the Jewish people today. On the one hand we should not excuse or minimize the wrong which they do. We don’t want to become so "pro-Israel" that we pretend that they can do not wrong. God has not turned away ungodliness from this nation yet (see v.26) and there are plenty of ungodly actions perpetrated by Jewish people. On the other hand we don’t want to forget the very special place that this nation has in the plan and program of God, and with excitement we await the fulfillment of all of God’s promises to this nation. In the days of Moses and Balaam an effort was made by the heathen to CURSE the nation Israel, but what God has blessed man cannot curse (see Numbers 23:20) because God will make good all that He has spoken and promised (see Numbers 23:19)

Romans Chapter 11
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Old 06-22-2014, 08:55 AM
 
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Yep, it's the fundamentalist Christians that insist we keep sending billions of dollars to Israel. They won't get into heaven if we don't.
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Largest private donors to all things / politicians Isreal and Israel tourism.

This has nothing to do with freedom of religion and all to do with beliefs in end times, a relatively new religious phenomnena.
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Old 06-22-2014, 08:57 AM
 
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Yep, that Christian God is one mean son of a *****. He sits by and does nothing while his "chosen people" are slaughtered again and again through the centuries, while at the same time demanding total obedience to his cruel indifference.

But remember, boys and girls, "He loves you." (With props to George Carlin)
If people were not hellbent on killing each other, the world would be different.....your understanding of "chosen people" is misconstrued!
Most people are being killed due to world resources and political gains......not by a Christian God!

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Largest private donors to all things / politicians Isreal and Israel tourism.

This has nothing to do with freedom of religion and all to do with beliefs in end times, a relatively new religious phenomnena.
Who are the people who send weapons and money to terrorist in Syria and Egypt? Are Syria and Egypt not spoken about in the Bible as being against Jewish people from the beginning of time.......but hey, let's bash Christians for their beliefs and keep sending money to those who want to destroy them. Nice plan!
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