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It doesn't. But it doesn't make him a libertarian, either, and that was my point.
Again, you didn't actually read what he said. He didn't say he supported the teaching of religion in schools. He said he supported allowing people to acknowledge that they believe in a superior being, creator or whatever.
I am 63 so definitely old enough to have said the pledge in class and done those asinine bomb drills where we went to the fall-out shelters. You ask "what happened".... WWII and Vietnam happened and seeing cops crack the heads of war protestors.We had learned from VA hospitals that you wouldn't want your dog in, how the government just views us as nothing more than expendable cannon fodder. We had learned of the LSD,and atomic bomb,and Agent Orange experiments on our own people.... that this government of war-mongering politicians is not worth enlisting in the military for! So they can send you to another country to possibly die for people who don't even want you there,and in whose squabbles we have no business in anyway!
Many,many,many have also learned how governments use religion and a mythical God to pacify/control the citizenship into apathy,and so now view any in power espousing such a belief in a mythical supernatural being with strong suspicion and derision!
"Religion keeps the poor from killing the rich"~ author unknown
If you learned that the government views you as expendable cannon fodder then why do you keep wanting to put more power in the hands of government? That makes no sense.
Remember, right-wing nut jobs want a government too small to pave the roads, keep the air and water clean, and handle social security, but they sure want a government large enough to: monitor the bedroom, control women's bodies, and force everyone to learn about their specific version of Sky Father - but no one else's of course.
Typical far right wing hypocrisy... all in favor of small government, except when it suits their needs - then, make the government as large and intrusive as possible.
And even though Rand likes to talk about God to get the Christian vote, he also opposes high min wage laws for people living in poverty. He also opposes tax credits for poor workers living in poverty, and he opposes Medicaid that gives poor workers health insurance.
Rand's desires are the 100% opposite of Jesus Christs teachings.
Which is one of the reasons you don't hear too much about Jesus from the far right... his viewpoints don't mesh well with the pro-rich, anti-working class, hate-driven agenda of the right-wing extremists. This is why most of them spend their time quoting Paul (who had issues with women, etc.) with crap like "those who shall not work shall not eat" - and the laws of the Old Testament. Jesus was a RINO by today's standards at best... if not an outright "socialist" with his free healthcare and feed the poor message.
Again, you didn't actually read what he said. He didn't say he supported the teaching of religion in schools. He said he supported allowing people to acknowledge that they believe in a superior being, creator or whatever.
Sure, that sounds innocuous enough if you mean that one kid should be able to tell another kid that they believe in God. It's a whole different thing to have a school officially acknowledge a Supreme Being. So, do you think Paul was talking about the former or the latter when he said "permit the acknowledgement of a Supreme Being in our classrooms"?
And if you say the latter, I know you're smarter than that.
Sure, that sounds innocuous enough if you mean that one kid should be able to tell another kid that they believe in God. It's a whole different thing to have a school officially acknowledge a Supreme Being. So, do you think Paul was talking about the former or the latter when he said "permit the acknowledgement of a Supreme Being in our classrooms"?
I have no idea what his complete thoughts were. Neither do you. So I suggest one not jump to conclusions.
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And if you say the latter, I know you're smarter than that.
A teacher shouldn't be able to place on a test:
What was the origination of the world?
A. A random big bang
B. Aliens
C. God in his infinite wisdom
D. It's still inconclusive
With C being the correct answer.
A teacher should be able to acknowledge "Yes, I believe in a supreme being" without having the government come down on them.
I have no idea what his complete thoughts were. Neither do you. So I suggest one not jump to conclusions.
You disappoint me. I guess I gave you too much credit.
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A teacher shouldn't be able to place on a test:
What was the origination of the world?
A. A random big bang
B. Aliens
C. God in his infinite wisdom
D. It's still inconclusive
With C being the correct answer.
A teacher should be able to acknowledge "Yes, I believe in a supreme being" without having the government come down on them.
A teacher in a public school shouldn't list C on any test to begin with. And a teacher in a public school should stick to teaching the curriculum without his or her personal religious beliefs ever entering into a classroom discussion.
You disappoint me. I guess I gave you too much credit.
A teacher in a public school shouldn't list C on any test to begin with. And a teacher in a public school should stick to teaching the curriculum without his or her personal religious beliefs ever entering into a classroom discussion.
Exactly.
Of course, I"m sure Rand Paul would have had no problem with a teacher saying how they believe in Allah, the Hindu pantheon, the Wicca pantheon... right? Lol... sure... those tolerant right-wingers... They love to hide behind "religious freedom" - provided it is for THEIR religion only.
Yep, those tolerant right-wingers would *never* have an ulterior motive when saying how people should acknowledge a supreme being in schools, nor would they force their religious beliefs on others... with mandatory school prayer in public schools... and I'm sure if a student prayed to, say, Allah, everything would work out fine for him...
You disappoint me. I guess I gave you too much credit.
I disappoint you because I won't pretend to be able to read a persons mind? I can live with that.
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A teacher in a public school shouldn't list C on any test to begin with. And a teacher in a public school should stick to teaching the curriculum without his or her personal religious beliefs ever entering into a classroom discussion.
Unfortunately life isn't so cut and dried.
"Mr Post, I happen to believe that a supreme being created the world, could you please give me your opinion on that"?
If the teacher believes the same he should be able to honestly answer the question. He shouldn't be forced to say "I'm sorry, that's not something the government will allow me to discuss".
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