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Old 06-21-2014, 11:07 PM
 
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Party of the rich
http://news.yahoo.com/party-rich-con...-election.html

Sympathies go to true liberals who are stuck in this system. You have one option left: immigrating to Scandinavia.
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Old 06-22-2014, 07:00 AM
 
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Both parties are for "the rich", the difference is the right comes out on TV and admits it while the left pretends to be for the "every man".
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Old 06-22-2014, 07:07 AM
 
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Democrats are moderate republicans from 20-30 years ago who support big business.

Republicans have swung to being pro 1%.

Labor doesn't have a party.

Poor don't have a party.

Your average voter doesn't have a party. Legislation is written pro-business/rich. Despite overwhelming public support for various legislation, the legislation actually written often contradicts public opinion.
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Old 06-22-2014, 07:59 AM
 
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I think the "left" left town some time back. Today we have the Dems and R's catering to the corporate class while ostensibly attempting to represent their historical constituency of fiscal conservatives and social liberals. The "war on poverty" is one such event that was orchestrated by the government ostensibly to help the poor, but instead lined the business coffers with programs such as housing assistance, not to the poor, but to the landlord class, food stamps not to help the poor as much as it gave a boost to the largest grocery chains.

On the fiscal conservative side we saw Reagan promising to "get government out of your life", all while he built up the government to unprecedented levels of spending and cutting the taxes of his biggest supporters. The Gipper knew one thing, and that was the fact of government spending being a real creator of wealth. He like most in DC was a puppet, and Obama now marches to the tune of his masters, the lords of Wall street. Welcome to our corporatocracy...
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Old 06-22-2014, 09:37 AM
 
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It's always kind of interesting how the left wing are:

- Poor welfare queens (the 47%) dragging on the US economy
- Crony capitalists tooling around in their limos paying lip service to the poor
- Educated white professionals looking to corrupt the morals of majority America
- Minorities looking to take rights away from Americans

Liberals and the left seem to comprise this group of people that seem to be a straw man for some people's anger at things...but can't really articulate the issue well enough to find more than a scapegoat.

Not that there isn't a problem with money in politics. This issue is something we made...and we can do something about. Since elections are won overwhelming by the candidate that has the most money, and we allow businesses to donate vast sums of money to candidates, it's kind of a no brainer the candidate is dependent on their donors. Even you had the same money raised by many people, or one big donor, the big donor is going to have a single consistent message...and likely to keep donating if people observe this message.

If we get these big donors out of politics, on either side, the issue can be fixed...from either side.

It's not like electing one politician, like Ron Paul, is going to magically fix everything like in some peoples fantasies. Especially when he is about the most corrupt of the bunch.
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Old 06-23-2014, 06:11 PM
 
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And people thought Obama was different lol
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:09 PM
 
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Why do the Demodummies have tons of money and cry poor-mouth.........IT WORKS!

Look at Fatb@tt-Hil-Hil, she practically was living in housing-projects after Stinkywilly left the WH.

The no-information voters love what the DumDumocrats dish-out.
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Old 06-24-2014, 03:57 AM
 
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Why do the Demodummies have tons of money and cry poor-mouth.........IT WORKS!

Look at Fatb@tt-Hil-Hil, she practically was living in housing-projects after Stinkywilly left the WH.

The no-information voters love what the DumDumocrats dish-out.
This comment is well thought out, full of rational arguments, and shows no signs of the Dunning-Kruger effect whatsoever.
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Old 06-24-2014, 08:55 AM
 
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Party of the rich
Party of the rich: In Congress, it's the Democrats

Sympathies go to true liberals who are stuck in this system. You have one option left: immigrating to Scandinavia.
Most OECD countries have strict immigration that would make our border look like a joke. Good luck with that.

Anyone who doesn't believe the Republicans are the party of the 0.1% is delusional.

Sure, the Democrats cave to big money.. but do you think corporations want to see:

-equal pay legislation
-increased minimum wage
-paid maternity leave
-ACA / health care reform



Stop spreading the right-wing lie that the parties are equal. Use some logic and stop insulting the left-wing.
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Old 06-24-2014, 09:11 AM
 
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Most OECD countries have strict immigration that would make our border look like a joke. Good luck with that.

Anyone who doesn't believe the Republicans are the party of the 0.1% is delusional.

Sure, the Democrats cave to big money.. but do you think corporations want to see:

-equal pay legislation
-increased minimum wage
-paid maternity leave
-ACA / health care reform



Stop spreading the right-wing lie that the parties are equal. Use some logic and stop insulting the left-wing.
So we set our immigration policy so differently than Scandinavian countries, does that mean we don't want social democracy?

The two parties are indeed equal. Noam Chomsky, one of the best left wing writers, has said enough that we are a one party state.
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