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Old 06-29-2014, 08:47 AM
 
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As long as there are things which want to rule , they will find each other. There is nothing which can be done about it. Laws or no laws because it is the rule.
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Old 06-29-2014, 08:47 AM
 
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Because the rest of us don't HAVE to enter other people's property without their permission. The rest of us don't HAVE to approach the dog's owner in a manner that the owner or dog might perceive as threatening. If we are concerned a dog might attack us we can just walk away - the police can't.
Gee, maybe the police should wear protective clothing.

How about a catcher's mask?

Better yet, cops should be restricted to wearing speedos, and speedos only, giving them more sensitivity and running capabilities until a professional dog handler can be summoned.

Usually, the dog's owner is capable of handling his or her dog.

It simply costs way too much money for every cop to be trained to handle dogs in any way other than a bullet to the head.

The dog subject of this thread sensed that the cop was dangerous.

The dog was right.

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Old 06-29-2014, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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That's not true. There are the hot pursuit and exigent circumstances doctrines both supported by the SCOTUS.
It is a gray area, but there are restrictions. There is a lot missing from the story. Did the cop have to enter the yard, did he have a view of the entire yard from outside of the fence? A little common sense goes a long way.
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Old 06-29-2014, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Fort Myers Fl
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Because the rest of us don't HAVE to enter other people's property without their permission. The rest of us don't HAVE to approach the dog's owner in a manner that the owner or dog might perceive as threatening. If we are concerned a dog might attack us we can just walk away - the police can't.
So your answer is just shoot the dog?
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Old 06-29-2014, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Because the rest of us don't HAVE to enter other people's property without their permission. The rest of us don't HAVE to approach the dog's owner in a manner that the owner or dog might perceive as threatening. If we are concerned a dog might attack us we can just walk away - the police can't.
Unless your a Postman or local authority official

In the Britain the vast majority of police don't carry guns, and dogs are only shot as a last resort if they are considered a threat to public safety, with all firearms incidents reported directly to the Independent Police Complaints Commission for investigation.
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Old 06-29-2014, 09:09 AM
 
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One of the most important issues of a missing person is time. The youngster needs to be found as quickly as possible, nothing can get in the way. It is an emergency situation.

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Old 06-29-2014, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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I was expecting some vicious pit bull type dog and not a two-year-old Weimaraner called Geist (pictured below). The fact that the whole world including the UK is looking at the US Police in collective horror says a lot, indeed a lot of people may be put off from even visiting the US by such stories of trigger happy cops.

Weimaraner dog shot dead in back yard | Mail Online

Dog owner berates Salt Lake City police officers for shooting pet dead | Mail Online
well of course your going to berate the officer that shot your dog dead, my Gosh, that is human, but when push comes to shove, I want to know the whole story, before incriminating anyone....

DOGs are animals, they will protect their territory....regardless.....and they will fight to the finish, if need be. Why Humans continue to try and humanize dogs, or dress them is beyond me...;.
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Old 06-29-2014, 09:16 AM
 
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So . . a missing child report is automatic authorization for a cop to enter any property with full force?
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Old 06-29-2014, 09:18 AM
 
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Wrong for leaving his dog in his backyard alone all day?



Also you A-holes advocating violence against this LEO's family are worse than the LEO that shot the dog.
Certainly there's a better way to respond to a vicious cop complaint.

The cop was unleashed and running loose on private property.

The cop illegally destroyed private property.
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Old 06-29-2014, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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So . . a missing child report is automatic authorization for a cop to enter any property with full force?
it was a neighbors missing child, and yes, the cops were doing their job, searching all areas, and they can, and if it were your human child, you would expect the same. When a child goes missing, time is of the essence....and cops know that....they were probably thinking someone might be either hiding in that yard with the child, or the child ran into the yard, if someone tried to pick the kid up.....if a child's life had been lost here, all of you would still be cruicifying the officer.....

Officers are taught to expect situations....only the cop knows if he was wrong or right, but I say this again, a dog protecting their property will attack and kill if they can.
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