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Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Originally Posted by Ceece
I'm curious to see what the outcome of all this is for sure. WILL raising min wage result in better, longer term employees? If so we won't be making jokes about MickyD employees much longer. WILL it improve a business to the point where it even has a better public reputation because all the employees are more professional?
OR will this be a giant ? LET'S WATCH!
A burger flipper is still a burger flipper even at $25/hour. The jokes will not stop. It's a job that needs to be changed to robots, maybe they will actually get the order right once in a while.
A burger flipper is still a burger flipper even at $25/hour. The jokes will not stop. It's a job that needs to be changed to robots, maybe they will actually get the order right once in a while.
Don't you see this is exactly what the problem is. Jobs are diminishing because technology has taken their place. When I call any professional....my doc, dentist, my insurance..........I get the robot. And if the robot doesn't like what I say or doesn't understand it I get frustrated and cuss them out lol My point is...I want a human to deal with. Jobs are being taken away by this.
Are you kidding me? Night school, college, technical certifications, vocational education, volunteer jobs with the possibility of transferring to paid work....you don't have to study rocket science. At my last job they wanted an A+ and Net+ certification, and since I was still working there I did some self study and achieved them. If you can't see a path to bettering yourself then you get what you get.
And after you receive all that advanced training there is no guarantee a job will be available in your field when you graduate. And you might end up stuck in a $9 minimum wage job trying to pay off your huge student loans.
Continuing a three-year trend, just under half of prospective graduates, 48 percent, plan to boomerang
– or move home – after graduation, according to the online career resource company.
A burger flipper is still a burger flipper even at $25/hour. The jokes will not stop. It's a job that needs to be changed to robots, maybe they will actually get the order right once in a while.
I don't see it this way at all. I see many front line workers who are learning to deal with people, juggle schedules, supervise others, multi task, provide good customer services (not an easy thing to with our current public btw) deal with some financials, ordering, and other things. Maybe jobs need to be/will be restructured so nobody's job is just standing there "flipping" when the beeper goes off. Maybe everyone who works there will be more responsible for the entirety of the business.
This is how entry level work SHOULD be. No one should be stuck "flipping" for a company for more than a short time if they have the brains to contribute more. If they lack the brains maybe they won't even get to "flip" now.
McDonald's then ends up paying more than a teacher's salary.
And NO STRESS or work to bring home to boot.
I'll go sign up at McD's rather than sign up to teach in the public schools.
Most teachers starting pay is equivalent to about $22 per hour; at least here in Texas so don't exaggerate.
And I disagree about low paying jobs not being stressful. When I was in school and worked in McDonald's we wouldn't get lunch breaks if we had too many customers and we'd have to wait an hour or two before even thinking of using the restroom during those situations. There's also the attitude and insults you have to take from customers that often feel very entitled.
I thought small business people were so great because they can adapt to changing business conditions?
I look forward to watching the marginal businesses that fail simply because they have to pay a living wage, they have no business doing what they do if that is all it takes to sink them.
I thought small business people were so great because they can adapt to changing business conditions?
I look forward to watching the marginal businesses that fail simply because they have to pay a living wage, they have no business doing what they do if that is all it takes to sink them.
As someone who has been chronically undercapitalized, I can't blame a "marginal business" it it started on a shoestring. Some of these undercapitalized owners have been very creative in making a go of it, sometimes for years, before the business took off.
Don't you see this is exactly what the problem is. Jobs are diminishing because technology has taken their place. When I call any professional....my doc, dentist, my insurance..........I get the robot. And if the robot doesn't like what I say or doesn't understand it I get frustrated and cuss them out lol My point is...I want a human to deal with. Jobs are being taken away by this.
But do you want to pay for that human? People complain about automation and off shoring of jobs, but they enjoy the lower prices such actions deliver.
Scholarships my eye; I had 3.9 GPA and great test scores and all I got was a crummy NYS scholarship that 10+ percent of my graduating class got including practically everyone in my homeroom...but it was worth only $100 a year for books. Student loans are not an option and it wold take working my way through school one or two classes at a time; who's going to hire a 60-year-old for an entry-level job?
So, your solution is to have the gummint force an employer to give you a raise since you can't get it on your own?
PS-60 year olds qualify for Title V employment and training. Just saying.....
And after you receive all that advanced training there is no guarantee a job will be available in your field when you graduate. And you might end up stuck in a $9 minimum wage job trying to pay off your huge student loans.
Continuing a three-year trend, just under half of prospective graduates, 48 percent, plan to boomerang
– or move home – after graduation, according to the online career resource company.
Too many students choose the wrong careers. Too many student choose a college degree when they would have been better in a trade. For some reason the trades get looked down upon.
One of the stated reasons for offshoring is that there aren't enough welders in the US. If there is stell involved you need welders and the money is great, well above minumum wage.
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