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The private sector has to have a plan to pay it back and abide by that or they go bankrupt.
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I never said it was only. I'm saying it's not my money.
Do you realize how much the private sector has their hand in the public money jar?
My point is that there is plenty of waste, fraud, and corruption in the private sector. It's blind ideology that puts the private sector on a pedestal as a beacon of efficiency.
Do you realize how much the private sector has their hand in the public money jar?
My point is that there is plenty of waste, fraud, and corruption in the private sector. It's blind ideology that puts the private sector on a pedestal as a beacon of efficiency.
The Boeing Company has been called the "Lazy B" for as long as I can remember by employees.
I know Mr. President that your a radical socialist and have absolutely no clue how the business world works. However get this thru your thick socialist head any business that are not efficient and have a lot of waste can’t compete. And if you are completely inefficient and continue to be inefficient, you are also out of a job, which in government your not.”
I wonder if Obama's favorite cartoon was the smurfs where the evil wizard Gargamel within the smurf communist was a greedy capitalist.
When issues reach the point such as they have at the VA they would be in court on criminal charges if that was a private company and would be out of business. Within a well run company there would have been a whole bunch of people fired a long time ago. If MS or Apple rolled out a website that was being publicized for years and it failed people would be axed immediately.
The government just goes "oops" and we need more money.
If you take the IRS debacle with these lost emails you have prime example that raises incompetence to a whole other level as far as IT is concerned. I know in the news and from the testimony of the IRS commissioner you have heard claims of 10 to 30 million to upgrade the servers but what hasn't been publicized is for few thousand each month every single email ever sent by IRS employees could of been backed up using incremental backups to tape. With an organization that has 1.8 billion dollar IT budget there is no excuse for not doing this.
I lived through a couple of total failure in my professional career and know of several others. The Obamacare was actually not of that league. Look up IBM TSS sometime.
The VA is structural. It has not worked properly in years. Partially money and partially the result of a bureaucracy saddled with unachievable goals and partially just the nature of a bureaucracy.
The capability of any organization to fail at its garbage collecting task is wide spread and virtually impossible to correct. The powers that be in any organization virtually always short those tasks...like backing up emails. And they fix the stuff only in spurts when it burns them. Check around and see how mny corporations or government organizations are running off software or systems that are totally obsolete. A major problem identified in Detroit is that the entire accounting structure is running on ancient and deficient systems so that nobody knows the actuals.
So no these are not problems unique to government. They appear in all large organizations. It is not even clear the government is worse than industry. Just more public. Civil servants at least tend to have a view a little longer than the next quarter and year. Most commercial corporations don't.
I lived through a couple of total failure in my professional career and know of several others. The Obamacare was actually not of that league. Look up IBM TSS sometime.
The VA is structural. It has not worked properly in years. Partially money and partially the result of a bureaucracy saddled with unachievable goals and partially just the nature of a bureaucracy.
The capability of any organization to fail at its garbage collecting task is wide spread and virtually impossible to correct. The powers that be in any organization virtually always short those tasks...like backing up emails. And they fix the stuff only in spurts when it burns them. Check around and see how mny corporations or government organizations are running off software or systems that are totally obsolete. A major problem identified in Detroit is that the entire accounting structure is running on ancient and deficient systems so that nobody knows the actuals.
So no these are not problems unique to government. They appear in all large organizations. It is not even clear the government is worse than industry. Just more public. Civil servants at least tend to have a view a little longer than the next quarter and year. Most commercial corporations don't.
If it caused my cost to go up (especially when Obama had to lie about it), it's a failure.
You guys really don't know how much time and resources are wasted on a daily basis at *any* place of employment? Or that even Microsoft and Apple have issues with website and software roll-outs on time and without bugs?
It's not the President who 'doesn't get it' on this issue.
Exactly.
But for the average right-wing extremists, private corporations are magical, perfect engines of efficiency (hahahaha!) and the government is evil and wastes all its money. A cursory examination of the facts would disprove this absurd notion, but they aren't interested in facts.
Of course, these are the same people that think we should let private industry run everything because it would be better, but then when shown examples of private industry committing all sorts of sins to make extra money, they loudly trumpet how great that is because, "private industry should only care about profits!"
The Boeing Company has been called the "Lazy B" for as long as I can remember by employees.
Said employees being union members who spend their energy fighting measures to reduce costs and make the company more competitive.
I've worked for several major corporations, and also spent a stint working in the federal government. The inefficiency and abuse of taxpayer dollars in the Fed.Gov agency was extreme. While no private company can claim perfection, those that I have worked for are focused on reducing waste and inefficiency. Fed.Gov is not, and anyone who claims that it is is uninformed.
Obama is simply ignorant on this subject, as he is on almost any topic he would choose to speak about.
No private company will survive for long while spending 146% more than it's sales.
Said employees being union members who spend their energy fighting measures to reduce costs and make the company more competitive.
I've worked for several major corporations, and also spent a stint working in the federal government. The inefficiency and abuse of taxpayer dollars in the Fed.Gov agency was extreme. While no private company can claim perfection, those that I have worked for are focused on reducing waste and inefficiency. Fed.Gov is not, and anyone who claims that it is is uninformed.
Obama is simply ignorant on this subject, as he is on almost any topic he would choose to speak about.
No private company will survive for long while spending 146% more than it's sales.
Dave
Boeing's failures have flowed from the top, not "evil unions" - those "evil unions" aren't the ones making the questionable decisions that can only be made at executive levels. Also, much of Boeing's white collar staff is not unionized, so it is also unfair to blame them, too.
I've worked for several major corporations and a few minor ones as well, and I've also worked in education briefly and close with the government. The waste in government is no worse than that in the private sector. Some parts of the government are reasonably efficient, just as some companies are... other parts are terribly wasteful, just as some companies are.
The reality is that people are people everywhere - I'm damn tired of this crackpot notion that people who work for the government are all "stupid" or "lazy" - and that efficiency or lack of it is based upon the corporate culture of the company or department... which is determined by the people in power, not some magical mindset that beliefs "business good, government bad."
Finally, if anyone still thinks the private sector is some sainted hall of efficiency and doing things the right way, remember the Housing Bubble, the Bailouts, and the Great Recession (which still has really yet to end.)
Said employees being union members who spend their energy fighting measures to reduce costs and make the company more competitive.
I've worked for several major corporations, and also spent a stint working in the federal government. The inefficiency and abuse of taxpayer dollars in the Fed.Gov agency was extreme. While no private company can claim perfection, those that I have worked for are focused on reducing waste and inefficiency. Fed.Gov is not, and anyone who claims that it is is uninformed.
Obama is simply ignorant on this subject, as he is on almost any topic he would choose to speak about.
No private company will survive for long while spending 146% more than it's sales.
Dave
I have seen quite well run federal operations. I have also seen some miserable major corporations. A corporation may well sit on a dying and money losing operation for years as long as it is concealed by other profitable ones. I have also watched start ups run for a decade without turning a profit.
Again the problem with the corporation is inevitably the time frame. They optimize for the next quarter and year. Governments can take a some what longer view. That is a very large advantage to government.
And sometimes corporations just screw the pooch. Ever really look at Boeing and the 787? The classical "all you go to do is" approach on a grand scale. They were correct in one way...they eliminated a lot of the old problems...and created a whole new set that turned the development into a virtual disaster.
Obamas degree in Income Redistribution didnt include an economics course.
What do Kenyans care about economics?
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