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Old 07-01-2014, 03:28 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Have the manmade-global-whatever fanatics ever come up with an actual link between man's activites and the climate changes we are seeing? Or are they still ducking, dodging, shucking, and jiving away?

Climates frequently change.

Sometimes the climate gets warmer.

And sometimes it gets colder.

That's been going on for as long as the planet has been orbiting the Sun. Or, as long as it's had a climate, at least.

And man has never had the slightest influence on it.

Even the leftist loons who scream about how we have to use government to change everything, go back to the stone age, etc., to prevent some unknown catastrophe, have never been able to come up with even ONE study or example that backs up their claims.

What's funny is that, when they do name some study, it invariably turns out to be nothing but a bunch of long-winded claims which, finally, refer to some other "study" for proof. And what is in that other "study"? You guessed it - more long-winded claims, and eventually a reference to yet another study. And you can guess what is in that one, too.

The leftist global-whatever loons have been insisting on impending doom, and the urgent need to give government massive powers to change every bit of our lives to "avoid" that doom, for at least 40 years by my count. Literally billions of dollars have changed hands - usually into their hands - all over the world. And they still haven't come up with one shred of proof that man has had the least bit of influence on the climate changes that happen regularly around us. Nor is there any proof that man can do anything to change it.

***40 YEARS*** of screaming, caterwauling, and doomsaying. All without the slightest proof. Just references to references to references, ad infinitum. And demands that they be given complete power over all of us, and that we send more and more of our resources to them, to change what they cannot change.
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Old 07-01-2014, 03:30 PM
 
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This is for the skeptics.

Here are 176 answers to your questions. Feel free to discuss any of them.

No, global warming is not a hoax. Good luck.
We know.

We used to be in a little ice-age, we have warmed up out of it, and thank god for that.

But people like you think we should still be living in the little ice-age, because that to you is climate normal.
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Old 07-01-2014, 03:50 PM
 
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Let's start with #2. Since mankind understands and has the ability to actually measure only about 10% of the energy the Sun emits, to give any opinion of the Sun's relationship to this GW fairy tail is beyond ridiculous.

As is this entire subject.
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Old 07-01-2014, 06:36 PM
 
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AGW is still theory.

Get back to me when theory becomes fact.
The only "facts" that truly exist in science are universal laws (the laws of motion, gravity, etc.).

Theories are based on evidence. For global warming, there is no true "tests" to determine 100% universal truth, unless humans can suddenly have 6 billion year lifespans.
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Old 07-02-2014, 06:04 AM
 
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This is for the skeptics.

Here are 176 answers to your questions. Feel free to discuss any of them.

No, global warming is not a hoax. Good luck.
You really need to get up to speed. "global warming" is so passe.

It has been called "climate change" for several years now.
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Old 07-02-2014, 06:16 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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You really need to get up to speed. "global warming" is so passe.

It has been called "climate change" for several years now.
Now it's "global climate disruption".
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:37 AM
 
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Now it's "global climate disruption".
Of course it is.

If the US was covered in a 1/4 mile thick glacier extending to Mexico, the MMGW zealots would say it's because you don't drive a Prius and it's also proof that the Earth has gotten 371 degrees hotter.

Nothing, and I mean nothing, is evidence to even question the religion, and if a convincing argument is made, they change the name of the religion to sound more enlightened and nuanced than your petty little argument.

My favorite part of all this is what I mentioned in another thread - the US CO2 output has gone down, and China's has gone through the roof. But for some weird reason, the MMGW zealot only attacks the US and NEVER demands action from China. Not sure why that is, but whatever.
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Old 07-02-2014, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Do you have counter evidence? The explanations are there for you if you click on the link.
Why would I want to "click on the link"?

Is the web-site hard up for traffic?

Whose web-site is that? Some left-wing blog?

What relationship do you have to the web-site or its owner?


Does your link explain why this is the coldest Inter-Glacial Period in known history?

Countering....


Mircea
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:30 PM
 
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The only "facts" that truly exist in science are universal laws (the laws of motion, gravity, etc.).

Theories are based on evidence. For global warming, there is no true "tests" to determine 100% universal truth, unless humans can suddenly have 6 billion year lifespans.
Sorry, I deal in facts.

You can keep your unproven theory.
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:37 PM
 
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This is for the skeptics.

Here are 176 answers to your questions. Feel free to discuss any of them.

No, global warming is not a hoax. Good luck.

Hilarious-

I read the first 20. What is being stated is pure conjecture and not based on valid science.

Why is it that liberals, who claim the "high ground" of science, are so opposed to the principles of sound science?
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