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Old 07-07-2014, 05:22 PM
 
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Forbes and the author, James Taylor are paid shills for the fossil fuel industry.
Hmmm, trying to discredit what you don't care to hear by attacking the messenger. That has never been tried before.

Even if what you accuse him/them of is true, look beyond the source and determine for yourself if it has any validity.

Now try to discredit the following, or better yet read and study it to see if your perspective might be altered;

<a href='http://<a href="http://tiny.iavian.net/2i8r" target="_blank">http://tiny.iavian.net/2i8r</a>' target="_blank"> Antarctica sets new record for sea ice area | Watts Up With That?


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Old 07-07-2014, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Hmmm, trying to discredit what you don't care to hear by attacking the messenger. That has never been tried before.

Even if what you accuse him/them of is true, look beyond the source and determine for yourself if it has any validity.

Now try to discredit the following, or better yet read and study it to see if your perspective might be altered;

<a href='http://<a href="http://tiny.iavian.net/2i8r" target="_blank">http://tiny.iavian.net/2i8r</a>' target="_blank"> Antarctica sets new record for sea ice area | Watts Up With That?


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Lol! Watts Up With That??

Now try doing a little research on WHY it's growing. The answer may surprise you, but leave it to a denialist website to not mention it.
 
Old 07-07-2014, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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So sea ice is growing because it's getting warmer. Maybe temps are "rising" in response to global cooling.
 
Old 07-07-2014, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Hmmm, trying to discredit what you don't care to hear by attacking the messenger. That has never been tried before.

Even if what you accuse him/them of is true, look beyond the source and determine for yourself if it has any validity.

Now try to discredit the following, or better yet read and study it to see if your perspective might be altered;

<a href='http://<a href="http://tiny.iavian.net/2i8r" target="_blank">http://tiny.iavian.net/2i8r</a>' target="_blank"> Antarctica sets new record for sea ice area | Watts Up With That?


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I always check the source....Deniers blogs and their opinions are not valid sources....Science is.....
 
Old 07-07-2014, 06:20 PM
 
Location: United States
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I have a question, if the planet is warming (I'm not saying it is, or isn't) why then is the United States cooling?
 
Old 07-07-2014, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I always check the source....Deniers blogs and their opinions are not valid sources....Science is.....
Anthony Watts is not a research scientist but he is getting rich from people that use google to find a remotely reasonable source to support their point of view.
 
Old 07-07-2014, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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So sea ice is growing because it's getting warmer. Maybe temps are "rising" in response to global cooling.
If you want to know why antarctic sea ice is growing and why antarctic land ice is shrinking, there are several reasons. Meanwhile between 1992 and 2011, the Antarctic Ice Sheets overall lost 1350 giga-tonnes (Gt) or 1,350,000,000,000 tonnes into the oceans,

Rose-colored glasses: Antarctic sea ice is the Mail on Sunday's latest global warming distraction | Dana Nuccitelli | Environment | theguardian.com
 
Old 07-07-2014, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Anthony Watts is not a research scientist but he is getting rich from people that use google to find a remotely reasonable source to support their point of view.
Key word..."remotely".
 
Old 07-07-2014, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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So the G in global means United States? What do scientists have to say about the data? It's great that you study and all. What college are we talking about? What peer reviewed studies have you published?

Ante up here. Do you post any data here that disagrees with your pre-determined position or are you just nitpicking things you might see on the internet?
Funny. When the NOAA data supports your side, you folks never challenge it.

So now only publishers of peer reviewed studies can post here on City Data? What peer reviewed studies have you published?
 
Old 07-07-2014, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Originally Posted by sanspeur View Post
If you want to know why antarctic sea ice is growing and why antarctic land ice is shrinking, there are several reasons. Meanwhile between 1992 and 2011, the Antarctic Ice Sheets overall lost 1350 giga-tonnes (Gt) or 1,350,000,000,000 tonnes into the oceans,

Rose-colored glasses: Antarctic sea ice is the Mail on Sunday's latest global warming distraction | Dana Nuccitelli | Environment | theguardian.com
And nobody is under water?
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