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Old 10-20-2013, 03:35 PM
 
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If you go to the rain forest and cut down the natural habitat of a species....then the species becomes poor and dependent upon society to create a game park and keep them alive.

Humans have historically lived off the land. Hence, when people started OWNING the land, or claiming the land for them ONLY, the seeds were set for poverty. However, as long as there was an abundance of land, ownership was not that big a deal. However, when the population started to expand during the agrarian era, the abundance waned and the "Landless" essentially became poor and dependent upon the landed, who generally exploited their labor.

Long story short, the SYSTEM produces wealth and poverty, because we live in a world of finite resources.
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Old 10-20-2013, 07:19 PM
 
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I don't get it...are you against rich people not blowing their wads?

Poor people are poor for any number of reasons. It's the poor that stay poor forever that don't deserve much of a break. Sorry, but it's true. I'm not saying they'll be rich, but there are so many programs to help people that they should be able to make something of themselves. That's why Section 8 is a good program, while things like welfare are not. This is too complicated a discussion for this thread.

Let me say this...bottom line, afford LI (or wherever) or move. My wife's cousins had to move to the Poconos to get a house. Anyone can do it and should be forced to do it if need be.

??? Lots of programs for parents and children, what programs are there for childless adults?

??? When you can't afford a Rolls, you buy a Bimmer or a Benz or a Lexus or an Escalade, if you can't afford any of those you set your sights down another notch and repeat as long as necessary...maybe you buy a Geo or a Yugo, but you don't move to find an affordabe car. Why should you have to move to be able to afford a home - why can't you just buy a smaller/cheaper home where you already live?

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Old 10-20-2013, 07:21 PM
 
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Contrary to popular belief, money doesn't end poverty.

If it did, let us wave our legislative wand, and deposit in EVERYONE'S Account, 22 billion billion quatloos - a substantial sum. Now, that everyone is "Set for Life," what happens next?

Everyone has "enough" money - so no one bothers to work, transport, etc, etc, and civilization collapses.
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Old 10-20-2013, 07:33 PM
 
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Alot of poor people are poor because they look to the government.

??? Homeowners look to the government for financial protection (supply control (zoning), tax breaks, and bailouts) and nobody ever claimed homeowners are poor.
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Old 10-20-2013, 07:37 PM
 
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Contrary to popular belief, money doesn't end poverty.

If it did, let us wave our legislative wand, and deposit in EVERYONE'S Account, 22 billion billion quatloos - a substantial sum. Now, that everyone is "Set for Life," what happens next?

Everyone has "enough" money - so no one bothers to work, transport, etc, etc, and civilization collapses.

It does for those who spend frugally.
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