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Old 07-15-2014, 02:38 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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For the AGW alarmists who simply point to an alleged "consensus" or "peer review" as proof, as opposed to actual science. Well, here's an interesting article about about a scientist who was caught faking peer reviews of his ocean tidal analysis. 60 faked peer reviews in fact. Quite the consensus he had. Another interesting note that I learned reading this article is that when scientists (all scientists, not just the one who was caught this time) turn in a research article, they themselves give references to the editor of which fellow scientists should peer review their articles. If I was getting paid to promote AGW & I just wrote an article, would I provide refernces to scientists who I knew would agree with me, or who might disagree with me? Hmmmmm....Maybe those reports of "Group think" by the IPCC scientists who've been quitting aren't so far off the mark?

Updated: Lax reviewing practice prompts 60 retractions at SAGE journal | Science/AAAS | News
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Old 07-15-2014, 02:52 PM
 
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Yes, the same thing is going on with AGW.
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Old 07-15-2014, 02:54 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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This sort of thing is exactly the reason you should be skeptical of both sides of an argument. Get the verifiable stats and facts and think it through for yourself.

Trust is faith.
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Old 07-15-2014, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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For the AGW alarmists who simply point to an alleged "consensus" or "peer review" as proof, as opposed to actual science. Well, here's an interesting article about about a scientist who was caught faking peer reviews of his ocean tidal analysis. 60 faked peer reviews in fact. Quite the consensus he had. Another interesting note that I learned reading this article is that when scientists (all scientists, not just the one who was caught this time) turn in a research article, they themselves give references to the editor of which fellow scientists should peer review their articles. If I was getting paid to promote AGW & I just wrote an article, would I provide refernces to scientists who I knew would agree with me, or who might disagree with me? Hmmmmm....Maybe those reports of "Group think" by the IPCC scientists who've been quitting aren't so far off the mark?

Updated: Lax reviewing practice prompts 60 retractions at SAGE journal | Science/AAAS | News
Someone else posted this link in one of the other AGW threads. I found it an interesting read.

My bet? The AGW chihuahuas are already planning their counter attacks, just as they have with the leaked e-mails a couple of years ago. Hell, next thing you know they will have "proof" that SAGE is funded by Exxon Mobile!

PS the climate science community is a closed one who constantly reinforce themselves in their computer models and their beliefs. It's no different than those who want to prove that non whites are inferior to whites, so go to the Klan and the Skinheads for validation of their research.
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Old 07-15-2014, 03:04 PM
 
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So an obscure journal about acoustics was found to have a horrible peer review process. And ...
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Old 07-15-2014, 03:25 PM
 
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If a denial is not possible, the next action on the laundry list of damage control is to downplay the incident.
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Old 07-15-2014, 03:28 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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So an obscure journal about acoustics was found to have a horrible peer review process. And ...
It's a straw. Grasp.
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Old 07-15-2014, 03:30 PM
 
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If a denial is not possible, the next action on the laundry list of damage control is to downplay the incident.
Damage control? This acoustics journal (Journal of Vibration and Control) should be shut down and its editorial staff should be blacklisted.
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Old 07-15-2014, 03:33 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Damage control? This acoustics journal (Journal of Vibration and Control) should be shut down and its editorial staff should be blacklisted.
Agreed. What does this have to do with climate change again?
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Old 07-15-2014, 03:35 PM
 
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Damage control? This acoustics journal (Journal of Vibration and Control) should be shut down and its editorial staff should be blacklisted.
And since similar actions have been documented in the AGW community, what do you suggest happen there?
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