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And if found to be here illegally deported, that is not happening. And the law that requires the president to enforce laws, even ones he doesn't like is in the Constitution.
Obama has deported more illegals than any other past president.
Obama has deported more illegals than any other past president.
Only Obama would think to count refusals at the border entry point as a "deportation".
And then he also counted the estimates of "self deportation" by illegals.
We have way too many apathetic, politically blinded people in America that don't bother to seek the truth.
Only Obama would think to count refusals at the border entry point as a "deportation". And then he also counted the estimates of "self deportation" by illegals.
We have way too many apathetic, politically blinded people in America that don't bother to seek the truth.
Actually, that started back in 1996, before Obama took office.
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One problem is the continued use of “deportation” in virtually all media reporting. In actuality, that category has been obsolete in immigration law since 1996. Prior to 1996, immigration law distinguished between immigrants who were “excluded,” or stopped and prevented from entering U.S. territory, and those who were “deported,” or expelled from the United States after they had made their way into U.S. territory. After 1996, both exclusion and deportation were rolled into one procedure called “removal.” At that point, the term “deportation” no longer had any meaning within the official immigration statistics. Its continued use in media reports is part of the confusion.
Lots of things cost money in this country, does those numbers include the amount saved because the illegals pay into our tax system and get nothing in return? Does it also include the savings that owners and consumers receive do to the cheap under the table labor?
Get nothing in return?
We're educating millions of children of illegals, which requires more teachers, more schools, etc. A quarter of the prison population are not American citizens. Infrastructure like highways have to be expanded to accommodate all of the additional people. And there are a great number of illegals who benefit from our entitlement programs even though they're not even citizens.
These are massive expenses for people who contribute very minimal taxes. They get far more back than they put in. Illegal immigrants pay about $12 billion in various taxes, but cost the nation over $100 billion, so we're paying about $90 billion a year to support people who are breaking our laws.
No, Perry is sending NG to provide photo ops for his 2016 Prez bid. Spending $12 mil per month of his taxpayer's money instead of taking the price from his campaign coffers as he should.
Texas will sue to get that money back, since it's really the fed's responsibility.
80% of illegals coming through right now are NOT children.
8,300 arrests of illegals in Texas since April.
How many millions is it costing Texas to NOT defend the border?
Texas will sue to get that money back, since it's really the fed's responsibility.
80% of illegals coming through right now are NOT children.
8,300 arrests of illegals in Texas since April.
How many millions is it costing Texas to NOT defend the border?
No city or state is going to get reimbursed for actions they have to do regarding illegals.
Not even the cities and states volunteering to take in and care for illegals.
That has already been made public via Obama's request for nearly $4 billion..none of that is for reimbursement.
Until ranches and farms are being raided enmass; until rich homeowners in suburban Dallas are put on notice for their illegal landscapers and amids; and until construction firms are shut down for hiring cheap labor we will have done nothing substantive about illegal immigration on our southern border.
Perry has no interest in going after the cause of illegal immigration. And it didn't become a "crisis" for him until it became something to exploit for political gain.
If New Mexico and California don't come on board, just put up a couple of those temporary inspection stations on the interstates transiting the state lines like the ones that exist now that require you to stop answer questions regarding fruits/vegetables and indicate proof of citizenship if asked.
As a Canadian RV'er hauling his fiver with a sleeper equipped semi truck, my wife and I were routinely inspected with BP agents climbing onto the running boards to look back into the sleeper, looking inside the fiver and being asked for our passports while running a "sniffer dog" around the rig
That oughtta slow down commercial/tourist traffic to the point they'll come on board or suffer the additional loss.
If you can subject tourists to questions regarding veggies and citizenship on the border between Cali and Az now, surely you can do that at other borders; unless of course it's the one with Mexico the Feds seem to ignore with impugnity.
I wonder how much this will cost Texas....actually nevermind, I don't care what Texas wastes its money on.
Would you rather spend $25 for an inoculation or $500 to treat the disease later?
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Ah yes, I am sure building a giant wall would be much cheaper to man all 1933 miles of it as well. Lots of things cost money in this country, does those numbers include the amount saved because the illegals pay into our tax system and get nothing in return? Does it also include the savings that owners and consumers receive do to the cheap under the table labor?
They pay into the tax system and get nothing in return?
What taxes are they paying? If you say thinks like gas taxes, does that mean they aren't using our roads? Are they not going to emergency rooms? Are they not sending their children to our schools? Are they not having ambulances sent when they are injured?
Nothing in return, now that is rich.
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Originally Posted by DoniDanko
Pointless waste of money that is accomplishing absolutely nothing. It's just show boating. The Gov. is using his position and tax payer $$$ to campaign.
I 100% agree that Perry is only doing this in hopes of becoming the Republican nominee for POTUS, but I'm not going to say don't do a good thing, even if it's for a selfish reason.
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Yes, Perry sent the guard to do nothing, and you call that doing something lol? He's show boating so that he can later claim during the primaries that he sent them there (to do nothing).
I agree that he's most likely doing it for a political reason, but they will still help with border security.
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By law, the national guard can NOT turn them away or send them back lol... Look it up and see for yourself. You're being played for a fool. It's all smoke and mirrors.
They can detain them until law enforcement arrives.
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Sadly all will be handed over to ICE/BP/Feds and will be turned loose.
Good men and women risk their lives on the border everyday with their hands tied by the Feds.
The problem lies in Washington.
Our system IS broken.
True, which is why our infrastructure to deal with this needs to be improved.
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No, Perry is sending NG to provide photo ops for his 2016 Prez bid. Spending $12 mil per month of his taxpayer's money instead of taking the price from his campaign coffers as he should.
Why should he pay for it? Securing the border is the responsibility of the government. If the federal government won't do their duty, the state should do something.
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Originally Posted by Myghost
The law (which I believe was put in during a Republican Admin) is that every person who gets caught crossing our border illegally has to have a hearing. That is being enforced, although taking months, if not years to happen (so not really being enforced). I don't see what any President of any party can do to enforce the current law. some Republicans have rallied around a bill that would make that hearing happen within seven days, but that's another smoke and mirrors solution, because we don't have resources to make that happen, and I don't think anyone would be happy about the cost to put those resources in place.
And sending in the National Guard is indeed a publicity stunt. It's not like these kids are trying to "sneak" into the country. They are walking up to border patrol voluntarily in most cases (because they know the above to be true).
This is not just an indictment of Republicans. Democrats too. As in most every issue, both parties are quick to point the finger, and to get us arguing amongst ourselves while they do nothing. Nothing will ever happen until BOTH parties decide that they are more interested in returning America to greatness than they are in getting themselves reelected to do nothing. Applies to both sides of the aisle, both parties have had many chances to fix this (and other issues) and when the opportunity was there, they didn't get the job done. THAT IS THE REAL PROBLEM!
The problem is that OUR GOVERNMENT is not investing in the infrastructure to handle this problem.
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No city or state is going to get reimbursed for actions they have to do regarding illegals.
Not even the cities and states volunteering to take in and care for illegals.
That has already been made public via Obama's request for nearly $4 billion..none of that is for reimbursement.
Cities and states will have to suck it up.
I see it as an investment.
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Lots of things cost money in this country, does those numbers include the amount saved because the illegals pay into our tax system and get nothing in return? Does it also include the savings that owners and consumers receive do to the cheap under the table labor?
