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Old 07-25-2014, 05:57 PM
 
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How do you KNOW that?
You don't even know what he's REFERRING TO.
But yeah, I know, you folks have never been ones to let little things like FACTS (or in this case a LACK of them) get in the way of a position.
Me, I like to actually KNOW what someone is talking about before making any judgements on what they are saying. But I guess that's just me.


Ken
You are saying you KNOW what he is referring to.....

So, what is it?
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Old 07-25-2014, 06:04 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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You are saying you KNOW what he is referring to.....

So, what is it?
I don't - and neither do you. That's the point.


Ken
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Old 07-25-2014, 06:06 PM
 
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I don't - and neither do you. That's the point.


Ken
Yet you spouted out much stuff...
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Old 07-25-2014, 06:06 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Probably all those broken promises of "change" that never happened.
I went and watched his full talk.

Lobbyists are still running the government.
Oil and gas tax loopholes are still in place.
Allow imported prescription drugs.
Allow 5 days of comments before signing bills.

That's just to name a few.
There are 6 pages of broken promises.


The Obameter: Campaign Promises that are Promise Broken | PolitiFact
There's plent of promises he didn't keep - as is the case with all Presidents.

Ken
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Old 07-25-2014, 06:07 PM
 
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There's plent of promises he didn't keep - as is the case with all Presidents.

Ken
Provide a list such as the list you are responding to...
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Old 07-25-2014, 06:09 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Yet you spouted out much stuff...
Because THOSE are things that HAPPENED.
I just have no idea what OTHER things Biden is referring to - and neither do YOU.
I'm just wise enough to want to know WHAT Biden is referring to before passing judgement on his statements. Apparently what the facts and circumstances of Biden's comments are don't matter to you.

Ken
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Old 07-25-2014, 06:13 PM
 
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Because THOSE are things that HAPPENED.
I just have no idea what OTHER things Biden is referring to - and neither do YOU.
I'm just wise enough to want to know WHAT Biden is referring to before passing judgement on his statements. Apparently what the facts and circumstances of Biden's comments are don't matter to you.

Ken
Yep, and we are equating it to what they PROMISED in 2008....and joe biden says it did not happen.

Why should you be able tell us what he is talking about, when he generalized, and then tell us we are wrong when we go back to what they stated they WOULD DO?
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Old 07-25-2014, 06:15 PM
 
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Provide a list such as the list you are responding to...
"No lobbyists in his administration" for one.

HappyTexan povided a link of a fairly comprehensive list of many others. Not a lot of point in me repeating them.

ALL Presidents have things they "promise" and never accomplish - remember "Read my lips - no new taxes"? Obama is no exception.

Ken
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Old 07-25-2014, 06:22 PM
 
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"No lobbyists in his administration" for one.

HappyTexan povided a link of a fairly comprehensive list of many others. Not a lot of point in me repeating them.

ALL Presidents have things they "promise" and never accomplish - remember "Read my lips - no new taxes"? Obama is no exception.

Ken
obama closed gas tax loopholes?

What about 5 days before signing a bill?



Are you lying to yourself? obama has no lobbyist? Seems you are...

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Originally Posted by HappyTexan
Probably all those broken promises of "change" that never happened.
I went and watched his full talk.

Lobbyists are still running the government.
Oil and gas tax loopholes are still in place.
Allow imported prescription drugs.
Allow 5 days of comments before signing bills.

That's just to name a few.
There are 6 pages of broken promises.


The Obameter: Campaign Promises that are Promise Broken | PolitiFact
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On the campaign trail, President Obama vowed that lobbyists would have no place in his administration, but his health care agency last month gave a half-million-dollar grant to a registered lobbying firm to help enroll people for Obamacare as Affordable Care Act “navigators.”
Obama slams lobbyists, then hires a lobbyist to help promote Obamacare - Washington Times
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Old 07-25-2014, 06:23 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Yep, and we are equating it to what they PROMISED in 2008....and joe biden says it did not happen.

Why should you be able tell us what he is talking about, when he generalized, and then tell us we are wrong when we go back to what they stated they WOULD DO?
He said WHAT did not happen?

That's the point. WE don't KNOW what specifically he's referring to.
If it's the "No lobbyists in the administration" issue or the "eliminate oil and gas loopholes" then I agree with him. If it's the things I mentioned that HAPPENED then I wouldn't.
Neither you nor I know WHAT he is referring to so there's no way to judge the truth or accuracy of his statement.

Ken
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