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Old 07-26-2014, 08:57 AM
 
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I have always said this-Israel should go after the Hamas leaders in Qatar instead of continuing to kill children and civilians in Gaza, which only builds the hate directed toward them.
You're proposal is good, and one that i would expand to iran as well, who like meshaal and Qatarian officials are the real drivers of this conflict.

That said, if the mossad is sent overseas to do such a thing, would you embrace it - or screech about israel killing officials in other countries' territories?

 
Old 07-26-2014, 09:00 AM
 
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This crisis remains because we have framed this Advocating for the palestinian people = Pro Hamas critisizing the actions of the Israeli government = Anti Israel, anti jew, anti-semite
Not entirely. The proper framing, for those who actually want to help the people of gaza, would be to demand israel obliterate hamas, its infrastructure, fighters, weapons, and leadership in gaza and abroad.

There is no possibility of enduring peace as long as hamas exists and is in power in gaza, none.
 
Old 07-26-2014, 09:07 AM
 
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Not entirely. The proper framing, for those who actually want to help the people of gaza, would be to demand israel obliterate hamas, its infrastructure, fighters, weapons, and leadership in gaza and abroad.

There is no possibility of enduring peace as long as hamas exists and is in power in gaza, none.
Can't rep you, but you're exactly right.
 
Old 07-26-2014, 09:21 AM
 
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I am sure there are some Palestinians recognize Hamas for what they are but the sentiment in general is against Israel's incursion. There are protests against Israel on the West Bank and world wide for the extent of their actions. Palestinians that lost lives and homes because of this war are not likely to support Israel, correspondents from the major news networks see this as a downside for Israel.
As there are also demonstrations world wide in support of Israel and decrying Hamas's stupidity.

Here's the deal; which entity is born and taught from birth to HATE another entity? Easy answer right? Now why is it so difficult to understand that being brought up on a steady diet of hate will create nothing but terrible consequences for the haters.

'So-called' Palestinians (no such country has ever existed) being brought up to hate; seem to have no problem throwing rocks at Israeli's without fear but cannot muster the cojones to throw a rock at a Hamas animal? Strange that, eh?

On the one hand you have an entity with a powerful military you've bee taught to hate but seem to be able to protest against without fear of reprisal but on the other you cannot stick a knife through the throat of some retarded azzhat shooting rockets from your front porch and thereby making your family a target of that very military might.

Perhaps the gene pool is in need of a general cleansing because it seems obvious their intelligence quotient is restricted by something bigger than simple HATE.
 
Old 07-26-2014, 09:44 AM
 
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I like Fox but I don't believe a word of this poppycock. All of a sudden the Palestinians are peace-loving Jew lovers? Nonsense. These people have been raised to think all non-Muslims are infidels and the Jews are less than pigs or apes and deserve to be slaughtered. If the war was going their way they'd be celebrating every Jewish death. Instead they're getting their butts kicked and now we're supposed to feel sorry for them?
 
Old 07-26-2014, 09:55 AM
 
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Lets all remember how this boiled over. There was not a peace in the land. ....
Our memory is not the issue. You may want to go back to 2005 when every single Jew was removed from Gaza. Thus no Israeli military presence or Jewish civilian presence. Gaza was supposed to be the litmus test for self governance towards a future state of their own. And what did a certain group send Israel as a Bon Voyage gift within a few hours? Rockets. There was Peace available, but a certain group didn't want it. That certain group presented itself as religious and civilian oriented. After winning the 2006 Senate majority, their true colors came out and by 2007 they did a coup to Gaza. So there was intended Peace, but it was all a facade by a certain group called Hamas.

The reality is Palestinian people Hate Hamas AND Fatah (PLO). They need an alternative to both.
 
Old 07-26-2014, 01:20 PM
 
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Hamas is continuing its firing of rockets to Israel as it refused to extend the ceasefire which Israel agreed to. I can't imagine that an ordinary person in Gaza is really happy about the continuing war.

Hamas spokesperson: We did not agree to extension of cease-fire until midnight | JPost | Israel News
 
Old 07-26-2014, 06:03 PM
 
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I can't imagine that an ordinary person in Gaza is really happy about the continuing war.

Happy? Doubt it. But are any of them Man enough (even in groups) to attempt to take out Hamas since they already regard death as having a higher value than life? If they can talk the talk about being martyrs, will they walk the walk for the greater good? We already have 100's surrendering just to get out of Gaza.
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