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Old 08-06-2014, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Well; you also need to understand what role years of U.S. foreign policy have played in the creation of these "hot" zones. One cannot remain detached and risk losing investment if one has taken an active part in fomenting the problem by manipulating circumstances leading up to it.
Oh I understand all to well, Saddam was our boy as was the Dictator that was running Iran that came back in bite us hard and the more we continue such alliances the more we dig our own grave.
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Old 08-06-2014, 01:48 PM
 
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Oh I understand all to well, Saddam was our boy as was the Dictator that was running Iran that came back in bite us hard and the more we continue such alliances the more we dig our own grave.
One thing to say that in a vacuum absent of the actions of the soviets.

The cold war was indeed a war....and war makes for some messed up bedfellows.....like Stalin for example.
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Old 08-06-2014, 01:51 PM
 
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One thing to say that in a vacuum absent of the actions of the soviets.

The cold war was indeed a war....and war makes for some messed up bedfellows.....like Stalin for example.
True, sometimes I wonder if Patton was correct, in that we should have rearmed the Germans and kept going east, we could have saved ourselves a lot of grief. Hindsight is always 20/20.
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Old 08-06-2014, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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US never belonged there to begin with. The Graveyard Of Empires has claimed the Rabid USA as another victim. There is no way that USA has done anything good in Afghanistan. No wonder soldiers are killing themselves when they get back. They see that they have been used by the War/Greed sucking/ machine, and essentially thrown away.
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Old 08-06-2014, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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US never belonged there to begin with. The Graveyard Of Empires has claimed the Rabid USA as another victim. There is no way that USA has done anything good in Afghanistan. No wonder soldiers are killing themselves when they get back. They see that they have been used by the War/Greed sucking/ machine, and essentially thrown away.
I strongly believe, as do many others with military experience, that if we had kept our foot on the throttle in 2003/4 on Afghanistan, instead of diverting attention and resources to Iraq, that we would not have been there this long, and we would not have been in the quagmire that we are today.

Hindsight is 20/20, but I ask all Americans of legal voting age to remember this the next time someone wants to fight a two front war with nation building involved. We can fight a multifront war. We can't stay and rebuild after the invasion. Thats not what the military is built for.
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Old 08-06-2014, 03:08 PM
 
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Yep. It was an American 2 Star General. Another Green on Blue attack.
nope, it was just another case of workplace violence.
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Old 08-06-2014, 03:13 PM
 
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I strongly believe, as do many others with military experience, that if we had kept our foot on the throttle in 2003/4 on Afghanistan, instead of diverting attention and resources to Iraq, that we would not have been there this long, and we would not have been in the quagmire that we are today.

Hindsight is 20/20, but I ask all Americans of legal voting age to remember this the next time someone wants to fight a two front war with nation building involved. We can fight a multifront war. We can't stay and rebuild after the invasion. Thats not what the military is built for.
Bush was a bit like a liberal, in that he had this Utopian philosophy that all people yearn to be free, and once we freed the Afghani people from Taliban than free elections and economic prosperity would soon follow. Bush probably thought the Afghan people wanted to be free, he did not know they had no modern concept to what the hell he was talking about.
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